Now it's Fake Water

Surely, how sick man can get. while pursuing capitalism, may be the world needs to ponder over 'the once so cool' spiritualism; spearheaded by the great civilisations of China & India. Water is the base for any civilisation and playing with such bare necessaties should invite heavy penalties. Time to wake up.. concerned authorities.

I am confused who is the author of this blog, Simon or Judi Xu. Furthermore, who is this guy, Judi Xu whose account of China has been repeated used in the China blog? Furthermore, where did Judi Xu hear this news? Over a gossip? Spread some rumor? The reliability of the source is really doubtful.

well,now what are we going to do? perhaps we could just drink half a bottle and throw the other half away, for dirty stuff should concertrate in the bottom as is prescribed by laws of gravity.

Seriously, Jodi has done a much better job in this one.

Anonymous: The Fake Water smearing campaign was started by this article: http://health.jinghua.cn/c/200707/09/n524070.shtml

This newspaper is, of course, untrustworthy, and lies about bad things happening in China. They even dare to publish more follow up articles about this incident too. We must beware of fake news like this.

I'm horrified too. Lucky I've already left beijing 3 years ago. And I'm alive!

China is a sick, disgusting country that cannot do anything right because that cuts into profits.

Red tape is not the cause. Corruption is. Only God knows how much money these bottlers gave to the regulatory officials so they'd turn a blind eye.

It's a culture of corruption that has formed, and the populace haven't found a way to do anything about it. Like I said before, in China if you don't treat the official with lavish dinners and expensive gifts, you are viewed as having poor "guan xi" and therefore won't get business. Fix that problem and the existing laws will then become enforceable. Public outrage, while it would get onto the news and even CCTV, won't change anything because Beijing can't enforce its mandates anymore.

I thought the bottled water in my office tasted bad...now I know why.

Where can I turn for safety?

CNN and NYTimes are both so anti-China it's incredible. Who has stepped up to mention that nearly 60% of Chinese products that have been pegged as recalled are actually produced by American companies? Who has investigated the substances in American bottled water and published about it? I challenge reporters to do this.

I second Karen's comments. Though CNN and NYTimes are viewed as "liberal" media in the US, they are indeed extremely anti-China for the sake of viewership.

I have stopped watching CNN for a year now - just watching good old PBS now.

NO MORE WASTED TIME ON THIS TIME-BLOG.COM EITHER.

Karen, are you one of the few americans who really care about Chinese people? If so i hope that more people like you appear because in the us so few, so few people really understand china's real situation instead they just care listen to propaganda and don't start thinking for themselves. ironic that the u.s. has such a free society yet almost no one takes advantage of the information freedom there.

americans are indeed right when they say that their country is very free. no one actually uses the freedom though except a very few; the rest follow the leaders like sheep.

thats why the u.s. government right now is so terrible; no one uses their freedoms to oppose it and now its not possible because things like the patriot act cut into the freedoms, not just that, the freedoms in the u.s. are not enjoyed by all equally. white people apparently have more freedom there.

I love the tone of this article. Jodi can deal with fake or low quality fireworks, medicine, Thomas the Tank Engine toys, eggs, dyes, cars, trains, and all of the other stuff that's come to the surface in the past few weeks. But she can't deal with the water even after she already knew that lots of fake product had already been sold in this area.

And I agree with others here - you need to quote your source. Time would also do well to tell us who you are. In fact, it is quite obvious that the editors who oversee the print content produced by the authors of this blog deserve to get paid more.

It should be noted that the same story was picked up by that virulently anti-PRC rag The China Daily this morning.

Personally I think caring about Chinese people means being angry when fake or unsafe products are being sold that affect the health and well-being of our friends, neighbors, and families here.

I think caring about people means being concerned about an endemic culture of corruption that allows such practices to continue.

If you take "patriotism" as love for a country, one might wish to recall Jefferson's, "dissent is the highest form of patriotism." (And yes, I know Jefferson owned slaves. I was taught that in high school and, ahem, strangely nobody stood up and called my teacher a 美奸 for besmirching the reputation of a revolutionary leader.)

As for the suggestion, "the rest follow the leaders like sheep." 1) That's terribly ironic given that we are only 30 years removed from the 文化大革命/GPCR. 2) Use of the term "The rest" suggests the writer is generalizing/stereotyping ALL Americans as either THIS or THAT. This simplistic and naive commentary shows a shocking lack of education and 素质 on the part of the oh so brave "Anonymous".

The comment further demonstrates only a rudimentary understanding of US politics. Unlike China, there is a clear separation between the "nation" and the "state." I for one, heartily disagree with Bush administration policies and strongly oppose the war in Iraq. Yet I can still consider myself a patriot because I am opposing the state in service of the nation.

I would suggest further reading and study so as to develop a more nuanced understanding of international politics. There's life outside of CCTV and your 农村, "anonymous".

The fakehysteria in China is not really news. We've always known that the water is fake, and getting excited about it is like someone suddenly discovering that racism or traffic jams exist in America.

Phenomena like this is essentially a reflection of the central problem with China, which is the government's withering ability to effectively govern the whole of 1.3 billion people and enforce its laws. It's not an easy job for anyone, but the Chinese government insists on doing it in an autocratic, upwardly responsible, systematic kind of way. It works like this - you give one official the onus of regulating an area, who then parses up the job for lower level officials, and so on. By the time you get to the administrators who actually deal with water sellers and the toothpaste bottlers, the political aim of the enforcing official is so far divorced from the policy-maker that the actual act of enforcement is often completely counterproductive to the spirit and aims of the central policymaker. The enforcing administrator would much rather act on behalf of those people who have a much more direct influence on him/her, i.e. entrenched local interest groups. Since the system is only upwardly-responsible (i.e. the official only answers to his direct boss, not the people, the policymaker, or the law), everyone suffers. This is the banal mechanism of corruption.

America once had analogous systemic problems in worker's rights, product quality, and civil rights, which all (in part) resulted from a lack of governance from local (state) governments. These issues where eventually solved in large by the creation of powerful federal agencies and vigorous litigation in the court system. Despite the tremendous differences between the two nations, I think strengthening such institutions (central regulatory + courts) in China is a part of the answer. The Chinese government should feel a sense of urgency here. It is problems like this, rather than direct call for democratic reform, that poses the greatest threat to the Party's legitimacy to rule.

Jeremiah said, “I would suggest further reading and study so as to develop a more nuanced understanding of international politics. There's life outside of CCTV and your 农村, ‘anonymous’.”

I don’t think that ‘anonymous’ is living or has ever lived in China. He is one of those Malaysians with an anti-American agenda. His presence at this blog serves no other function but to stir up racial hatred.

When I visited Hangzhou in 2001, a local TV station did an investigative report on the practice of fake bottled water suppliers. As a result, a number of people were arrested and factories were closed down. I was told that there was a report on fake moon cakes as well. So it seems fake water and food supplies have been a problem in many parts of China way before the current spree of media reports. This incident of fake bottled water finally catches the attention of foreign language press because it is now happening in Beijing. And of course it is also because it’s now much closer to Olympic time, when the world’s attention will inevitably fall on China. One wonders whether the Chinese government’s determination to crack down on these fake suppliers will extend beyond the Olympics. One can only hope.

What are you doing drinking bottled water anyway? "we pay for the quality". That's a farce. Bottled water isn't any better than tap water, and puts over 1 billion plastic bottles in landfills each year. Shame on you.

Seriously this is positive proof that Beijing's tap water is drinkable.
There is this myth among foreigners that only drink bottled water since tap water isnt treated properly.
Now this myth is broken. The bottled water that people have been drinking and never get sick from are staightly from tap.
LOL

Jeremiah

“This simplistic and naive commentary shows a shocking lack of education and 素质 on the part of the oh so brave "Anonymous".“＇

哦，我现在才注意你会写中文。你说我的“简单与幼稚“的论点代表我缺乏教育和素质。请问，素质的定义是什么？“素质”是一格抽象的概念，他的具体体现是什么呢？而且，你没有说我在那一方面缺乏“素质”；请解释。

咱们讲一下“教育”。你说我的“简单与幼稚“的论点就代表我缺乏教育。我的专业是化学；我需要高级的英文写作水平吗？尺有所短，寸有所长。

实际上，你的“简单与幼稚“的反驳代表你缺乏“教育与素质“。

Everything in China is about profit, so is water. when people are too lazy to burn water by themselves, they've got chance to be poisoned by those profit-pursuing freaks.

can not believe our government allows something so ugly happening again and again. we pay them to protect us, and they just use the money to buy happiness for themselves.

Yes everything for profit, even if it can hurt the customers. But most of Chinese people here are aware that it is very difficult to find some real water. I have lot of Chinese friends who always check with factory if the S/N on the bottle is real and double check everything. There are plenty of forum on Internet to discuss which brand is less counterfeit than others...

"Fake water" is barrels water,not bottld water,please kindly check BEIJING NEWS paper.

Jack: Oh, No. That would mean they have to read!!!

Some American brand bottle water came straight from the tap. This insight is from workers in the American bottling plant. Americans wasted their money for imagined "quality" bottle water.

i buy bottled water in the u.s. though, for convenience. i don't buy new bottles, instead i buy the bottles once, of course with water in it, and then re-fill them with tap water for my own private use (not for selling).

Tap water in most US cities is drinkable, so is the tap water in Canada, and Singapore.

I like this guy's logic that why China's tap water not drinkable. Therefore nothing wrong to fill the bottles and barrels with tap water in Beijing, and sell them as "clean", "drinkable" bottled water.

It's simple. Stop buying stuff from China. Stop investing in China until the place cleans itself up. No profit, no corruption.

they've got. You got to stoop pretty low to argue with them, so why bother? Just don't even lower your standards to respond to them.

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