`Locking in China at Today's Prices'

The Pentagon holding out a so-called olive branch to the people of China - this news is too good to be true & therefore must deserve what it actually worths: mere face-value. This is no different from the previous offer of `responsible stakeholder' to co-manage this world. Intelligent Chinese must not be fooled into complacency:they really mean we must work together to safe-guard their status quo. They are naturally still the bosses while we are expected to foot the bill to help maintain their pre domineering position. Obsolute garbage!

What we, the oppressed people of the developing world, really want is nothing short of a complete overhaul of the present Western-centric world so as to appropriately & fairly reflect the contributions & aspirations of the entire world. The West has simply appropriated for herself too much voice, power of interpretation & power to rewrite rules of the game totally disproportionate to her population ratio weightage!

Thomas Barnett talks too much sense to be fully accepted in the corridors of power in Washington. Domestically, US policies are often very rational and deliberate.

Internationally, its policies are often irrational and self-defeating because small groups of indviduals can introduce irrationality into the power structure, like the no more than 20 neocons in the Bush administration brought the US a disastrous Iraq.

Thomas Barnett is sensible in the big picture but has some common misconceptions as others such as China might redraw from the international market. There is no chance of that.

Madox,

Do you ever think that US sometimes needs to save its own face?

Barnettt is probably right on the long range. But his short term or median range suggestions are total fantasy.

China to US in early 21st century is NOT Britain to US in early 20th century: the political systems are too different, which causes huge lack of trust.

If China gets on with political reform, US-China alliance will solidify the globalization. But whether or when China will get on with political reform, US has only a small say. Russia and India will have a much bigger say, by the way of examples. In the 1980s, the Chinese public and elites finally agreed that market economy is the way to go, not because of any lectures or theories, but the vivid success stories of Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea.

Given the current track, Russia may well lag behind again because of its sliding back to authoritarianism, India may well leap forward because it finally hits the magic combo of democracy and free market. The success of India will once again proving by example to Chinese elites and public: free market only gets you so far, you need to reform your political system to compete in global market in the long run.

This is nutty. His Civil War analogy is correct, and that's exactly why he's wrong about Taiwan. If we entered into a military pact with China, they wouldn't want Taiwan to figure into it. Imagine a defense treaty between the US and China where it says "the US will not fight unless China invades Taiwan; then it's party time!"

Obviously China is okay with the status quo Taiwan situation now, but it's clear they're not going to accept that forever. Taiwan does not need to declare independence to provoke Beijing; if we signed a defense treaty, we'd be throwing them to the dogs, and China would probably take Taiwan even sooner than it could now. THINK about it. We couldn't keep selling weapons to them, and we couldn't help them if China attacked them. I understand what Barnett is saying, but being pragmatic is sometimes (often) irrelevant to doing the right thing. His whole bottom line is "order and stability." That's a great excuse for doing lots of wonderful things! Where else do we hear that mantra coming from a lot these days?

To Mainlander:

You are absolutely right.

I have a question for mainlander.

If the world were to shift to a Sino-centric world how would this benefit the world as a whole? In what way do the chinese people envision improving upon the current global economic and security systems?

One of my concerns is the chinese perception that all that the world encompasses is "originally Chinese". This is a very important issue because I feel that as much as China has the power to topple if not completly transform global systems the "world" also has the power to topple China easily.

Agree. World is too small now, and getting frightfully smaller and interconnected, to have big players acting on conflicting agendas. It is completely in the US interest to provide the vision and then execute a long-term global cooperative scheme. Otherwise, we will soon be looking at ever-widening gulfs due to too many humans and too few natural resources to sustain balanced existence, not to mention growth. US, European, Japanese and other nations' commercial enterprises are providing one avenue for Chinese policymakers to think globally, by providing jobs, markets and technology. However, it is for governments to provide the stable political environment in which global coexistence can succeed. We can't afford to do this wrong.

when talking about something "globally" put South Korea and Japan togather with China is nothing elese but simply insane.
But i forgive the these word especially it come from someone knowing nothing about Chinese history and chinese political culture which is far far beyond some western folks understanding and imagination.
China is installing "influence" around world not "dominate" the world. Any one saying china will "dominate" is likely US people which get used to seeing poor widows and children tearing under under US unbeatable war machine since they were born. And "dominate" world like that is far far beyond China's capability which chinese people know very clearly.
And china isn't like america so much war addicted.

Taiwan is not some 3rd world country, but a first world country. And if the US broke its word to it to join with China - odds are the rest of the world would be so alarmed, it would unite the rest of the planet. The Chinese/US union would be a threat to serious for India/Russia/EU to ignore.

And US & China are oil/resource poor - and both have a nasty history of gaining oil/resources by unsavory means - which would cause the MiddleEast to sit up and take notice.

This union would be garenteed to split the world into two very dangerous camps. And do you really think the US/China camp would be the guys in the white hats?

As for Taiwan - is has a highly educated population - lets face it the only thing of value on that island is its people - if they could see the Chinese coming, they'd leave and Europe & Canada would be fighting to attract the refugees -
because it would be a highly educated and desireable population to have vs their normal immagrants. Doctors, computer specialist, people with skills, and social/religious behaviors that won't upset the host country. Then all China would have is a rock in the ocean, and the principle of the thing.

how does China mainland get advantage position on Taiwan? Is this advantage position been "granted" or by mighty and generous US? Does today China's global statue is the result of mighty and generous US's mercy?
Want to get China on US's war machine, becoming one of little punk like South Korea or gibbed Japan?
It is impossible as long as Chinese government not going crazy, as long as Chinese people not going crazy, as long as chinese culture not going crazy.

Sounds like several of the Chinese posters don't see the benefit of this union to China. Perhaps the Chinese would view this as attaching thier rising star to the US sinking ship. After all they aready have all our money.

This bargin only offers them the option of joining the US as the policemen of the world status that the US gave itself. Maybe they don't want it? And really, rational who would?

China is already a growing influence in the MiddleEast and Africa - what do they need us for?
We are their largest competor for raw resources. Both countries want the same oil supplies/same raw materials out of Africa.... I don't see the benefit to China in a union, unless World Domination is the Goal?

"Sounds like several of the Chinese posters don't see the benefit of this union to China."
America is far too powerful for china to handle, it is just too hard to make both side equal.
As a chinese, I admit the fact that in front US, China is more considering what will lose rather than what will get.
"We are their largest competor for raw resources"
if china isn't there, some one else will compete for resouce.
"China is already a growing influence in the MiddleEast and Africa"
It is just some soft influence, there no "hard" chinese influence there.

skywalker,

If you compare India with China, your conclution is simply wrong. Many top India politicans even blame their sloppy democracy is what get them behind China.

One thing I do agree. In order to maintain an healthy economic development, every country needs to reform its political system. If you study on China's case, the Chinese political system has changed alot in last 20 years. It just didn't go the way you wished.

IMHO, US also need a political reform to push a more balanced economic development. The current Militury based/ world domination persue will meet
its dead end sooner or later.

skywalker,

Many the most backward coutries in the world do have a combo of democracy and free market. Tell me where is the magic goes?

Corinthia,

The most brillant Chinese people in taiwan now live in China.

Most of Taiwan's GDP growth is actually from China.

If they don't reunion with China quick enough, eventually Taiwan will become the tropic fruit producer for the mainland.

This is so true! Right on, Mainlander.

Posted by Mainlander, August 30, 2007
The Pentagon holding out a so-called olive branch to the people of China - this news is too good to be true & therefore must deserve what it actually worths: mere face-value. Obsolute garbage!

What we, the oppressed people of the developing world, really want is nothing short of a complete overhaul of the present Western-centric world so as to appropriately & fairly reflect the contributions & aspirations of the entire world.

The West has simply appropriated for herself too much voice, power of interpretation & power to rewrite rules of the game totally disproportionate to her population ratio weightage!

bird you made me laugh so hard, it's people like you that are the reason why any serious talk about china turns into a big comedy show. keep it up you are hilarious.

oh and of course this comment thread wasn't complete without the one mainlander guy talking about how westerners or whomever just don't understand china's history. LOL hahahaha

Jammy,

You never thought you will get this far, do you? :)

You wil never win over Chinese, as simple as that.

Wait and see.

let see who has the least laugh. :)

So this "expert" would basically turn over all of Asia to China in exchange for what? More cheap and dangerous junk? False cooperation on terror, which in itself is a fifth column China uses against the US already?

And has Barnett asked Asian gov'ts what they think? There is a reason that they like to keep the US military and US companies around...to offset bad China.

China does not seek parity, it seeks to rule and the Barrett would turn over a hundred million lives + India for more of China's BS, lies and pollution.

I say beat China to a pulp.

nanheyangrouchuan, You provided me with my first amusement of Friday morning, many thanks. As usual, I cannot agree with you, but your vigorous and deeply-committed views communicated in your inimitable style are refreshingly engaging.

"oh and of course this comment thread wasn't complete without the one mainlander guy talking about how westerners or whomever just don't understand china's history. LOL hahahaha"

The following "blog" show how thoroughly Chinese understands the west. It is about the German primier, in a banquet in China, dropped a piece of bread on the floor, waved away the banquet room manager from picking up the piece of bread and picked up the piece of bread herself, and put it on her plate.

The comments were, and rightly so, that the German was considered a cheapskate, and the western governments have the archaic and unreasonable rule about travel expenses. The blogger said Chinese should respect the Germans' thrift.

What these Chinese really don't understand is that:

1. A piece of bread on the floor is "not a good thing" and must be picked up, contrary to Chinese customs.

2. Therefore it became a question of who should pick it up. All uncivilized children in the western world have been told to clean up after their own mess, and not wait for someone to pick them up after them. Most western families don't have servants, except a few really rich people, or disabled persons. Any child not picking things up means leaving stuff for their parents to pickup, and most western parents won't stand that. Therefore, picking up stuff after oneself is an innate response, however unnatural that is to the more sophisticated Chinese.

3. The western people also has the mistaken concept that all other people, including waiters in restaurants and banquet halls, are all human beings, just like them. And they are not more equal than any of them. Therefore, if it is all right for the waiter to pick up the piece of bread, it is equally all right for them to pick up the piece of bread. It is not beneath them.

4. Western people are not used to have servants to wait on them, and feel very uncomfortable to have others to pick up their mess.

So, the reason the German premier picked up the piece of bread was because, 1. it should be picked up, 2. it is all right for her to pick it up, 3. it is not acceptable for someone else to pick up her mess. 4. respect of the dignity of the banquet room manager. It has nothing to do with money, thrift, or expenses.

The western people are just too stupid not to consider money as the only reason for all behaviour.

都说富裕的德国人很节约，甚至节约得有些“小气”，德国女总理默克尔近日访问南京很好地证实了这一点———吃早饭时，默克尔不小心把麦片面包掉在地上，她不让赶过来的餐饮经理帮忙，而是自己将面包捡起，放回自己的盘中。（8月30日《扬子晚报》）

这一幕确实给人颇多感慨。对大方热情的国人来说，帮客人取食物，视为应该；面包掉在地上，由工作人员捡起来，也很正常；捡起来后弃置一边，无可非议。如果换位一下，事件的主角换成国内官员，会这样吗？其实，不要说官员，就是普通市民，面包捡起来放回自己盘中，怕也要经历一番思想斗争。

默克尔的行为，很多国人会称为“小气”。确实，面包掉在地上捡起，不仅涉及卫生问题，更涉及我们在乎的面子问题。生活中，国人似乎就是为面子而活———为了有面子，吃得铺张，住得奢侈，全国每年几千亿的公务招待费就是明证。舆论痛责公款吃喝风，其实，更该指责的是“面子症”。那么多酒菜，哪是吃喝掉的，大都是为面子消耗掉的；就是在百姓生活中，哪一个饭店不剩菜成桶倒？哪一个餐桌上，没有大量的浪费？

与默克尔的“小气”相比，我们的大方其实是假大方，试问，我们难道比德国富裕吗？

诚然，默克尔的行为有制度约束因素。在很多国家，公务消费有严格规范，制度面前没有特殊者，哪怕你是政府首脑。不时有报道说，某法治健全国家的官员因坐飞机少付钱、旅游少付费而受谴责，严重者甚至可能丢官去职。这就是制度的约束作用，但在制度外，我们也不该忽视德国人节约的传统与俭朴的美德。

换句话说，默克尔住普通套房、吃自助早餐可能受制于公务消费制度，但自捡面包，即使最严厉的法律，也不可能如此苛刻吧？而且，自助早餐的费用是固定的，捡与不捡，并不影响她的消费支出。可见，这是习惯使然。

近来，中央三令五申严禁公款浪费，但成效并不大。原因很多，但我们的官员缺少“小气”的美德，无疑是重要原因之一。从这意义说，默克尔的南京之行，为我们很好地上了一课。

"oh and of course this comment thread wasn't complete without the one mainlander guy talking about how westerners or whomever just don't understand china's history. LOL hahahaha"

Jammy, what does your comment make you? The ignorant guy who can't accept truths just because they undermine the insinuations of anti-Chinese skeptics? Bird has every right to defend what s/he holds to be the truth just like others have the right to make those accusations.

"So this "expert" would basically turn over all of Asia to China in exchange for what? More cheap and dangerous junk? False cooperation on terror, which in itself is a fifth column China uses against the US already?

And has Barnett asked Asian gov'ts what they think? There is a reason that they like to keep the US military and US companies around...to offset bad China.

China does not seek parity, it seeks to rule and the Barrett would turn over a hundred million lives + India for more of China's BS, lies and pollution.

I say beat China to a pulp."

The global hierarchy changes, accept that. World War I, World War II, the Cold War – which one of the countries involved sought “parity”? For China, “parity” means international recognition, not the declaration of more ideological wars.

No one is turning over Asia to China for anything but what they perceive to be for the better good, i.e. Asia’s mutual economic welfare and collaboration. International bartering seems to be your dominant mentality though.

How much pollution happened during Europe and America’s Industrial Revolution? Why does China need to justify herself to hypocritical outsiders?

By the way, how much “cheap and dangerous junk” do you own? You’d be paying a fortune for what you already own if they weren’t made in developing countries. Try and complain when you start paying up for all the things that you seem to take for granted.

So, what’s your solution to stop old sneaky China? Suppressing and bashing her is going to solve a lot of problems I’m sure.

John Smith wrote: "So, the reason the German premier picked up the piece of bread was because, 1. it should be picked up, 2. it is all right for her to pick it up, 3. it is not acceptable for someone else to pick up her mess. 4. respect of the dignity of the banquet room manager. It has nothing to do with money, thrift, or expenses."

LOL` once again John Smith shows his ignorance. He is either a redneck or Not a Westerner.

1. In the west it is considered a faux pas, a social blunder, i.e. inappropriate for a customer/diner in a western restuarant to pick up whatever it is he/she drops. That is the job and courtesy of the retaurant employees.

John Smith, indeed "It has nothing to do with money, thrift, or expenses" . It is called proper western etiquette, you moron.

"In the west it is considered a faux pas, a social blunder, i.e. inappropriate for a customer/diner in a western restuarant to pick up whatever it is he/she drops. That is the job and courtesy of the restaurant employees."

CHARLES IS RIGHT. THIS REMINDS ME OF THE DINING FAUX PAS I COMITTED A FEW YEARS AGO IN AMERICA. AT FIRST I WAS PUZZLED AS TO WHY THE WAITRESS HAD APOLOGIZED TO ME FOR NOT PICKING UP THE FORK I'D DROPPED BEFORE I DID. MY AMERICAN HOST QUICKLY EXPLAINED TO ME THAT I SHOULD HAVE LET THE WAITRESS PICK UP THE FORK I'D DROPPED AS IT WAS THE CUSTOM IN THE WEST.

"John Smith, indeed "It has nothing to do with money, thrift, or expenses" . It is called proper western etiquette, you moron." Charles Winsor

I concur.

Cheers,
J T Mighella

Ha~ha~ha, What a major d#ckhead this John Smith!

"No one is turning over Asia to China for anything but what they perceive to be for the better good, i.e. Asia’s mutual economic welfare and collaboration."

Everyone in Asia dependent on China for investment and cheap, shoddy, poisoned goods in return for high technology, women, water, food and repeated violations of sovereign territory by the Ming, er, PLAN fleet. It does sound like welfare but doesn't sound mutually beneficial.

"For China, “parity” means international recognition, not the declaration of more ideological wars."

China is internationally recognized...as a nation of cheap, shoddy ripoffs and stolen ideas. As for ideological wars, I would say that is one truly Chinese innovation. Take your pick: 3 Represents, Deng Theory, Little Red Book, Anti-rightist movements, re-education of running dogs, big character slogans.
Now there are environmental ideological wars: "Make most green teknilojically advanssssed nation wif booist waters, geenist skeyes and burn mutha fudgin japan!"

"How much pollution happened during Europe and America’s Industrial Revolution?"
Not nearly as much as China does now.

"Why does China need to justify herself to hypocritical outsiders?" Because China is bad, lying, dirty, stealing, organ harvesting and baby killing.

"By the way, how much “cheap and dangerous junk” do you own?"
Not much, I get what I pay for and always check the "made in..." tag.

"You’d be paying a fortune for what you already own if they weren’t made in developing countries. Try and complain when you start paying up for all the things that you seem to take for granted."

I'd be all for manufacturing being spread out around the world, that would truly lift all boats instead of relying on one filthy, degenerate, whiny, crappy, lying, territory stealing, dolphin killing, organ harvesting, body fluid sharing, subway and bus vomiting, undrinkable water having, multicolored rice growing, 100 million fudge packing-pillow biting man nation.

I think shipping the nanheyangrouchuans & John Smiths of the world off to Guantanamo naval base (Gitmo) would instantly clean up the china blog environment. The likes of these would make excellent interrogators and would love the detainee torturing sessions.

Reminder: Prisoners are held in small mesh-sided cells, and lights are kept on day and night. Detainees are kept in isolation most of the day, are blindfolded when moving within the camp, and forbidden to talk in groups of more than three. Red Cross inspectors, and released detainees have alleged acts of torture , including sleep deprivation, the use of so-called truth drugs, beatings, locking in confined and cold cells, and being forced to maintain uncomfortable postures.

Happy holidays, Mutton-on-a-stick & John Troll Smith.

@nanheyangrouchuan,
I am sorry that every chinese girlfriend and boyfriend you abused left you.I am also sorry that our shoddy blow-up doll you bought with your life savings leaked. I am sorry your manhood was almost blown completely off by the cell phone explosion in your pants front pocket. (FYI, the battery that semi-castrated you was a made-in-Japan model.) As for "subway and bus vomiting, undrinkable water having, multicolored rice growing, 100 million fudge packing-pillow biting man nation," these too shall come to pass except for body fluid sharing, of course, except for you, I guess.

"Russia may well lag behind again because of its sliding back to authoritarianism, India may leap forward because it finally hits the magic combo of democracy and free market. The success of India will prove by example to Chinese elites and public that free market only gets you so far, you need to reform your political system to compete in global market in the long run."

Nothing lasts for ever, most don't stay at the bottom. Systems are manmade and mandates are from the heavens. The new world is ruled by the old world in dark suits instead of togas and other fancy dress party costumes. The latter are reserved for the elites of the elites for their annual Bohemian Grove ceremonies, Skull & bones revelries and Freemasonry rituals etc. The West is and has always vied for world domination, a new world order and ultimately a one world government. Political reforms are inevitable but
Barnettt's suggestions are total fantasy. The people of the world, East and West may become closer allies but never the governments nor their "claws & teeth."

It’s a whole new world where we’re trying to come out from., institutionalized bigotry and prejudice still abides in this Great Country…called America"

Jena 6:Friends of Justice organizes in poor communities

This month, we brought international media attention to a dramatic trial in Jena, Louisiana, where a young black teenager was convicted of aggravated assault for a schoolyard fight.

The fight was initiated by white students, who hung three nooses in a tree at the high school courtyard, to warn black students not to sit there. After this hate crime was dismissed as a harmless prank by the school administration, black students protested under the tree.

The local District Attorney was called in to warn the black students that he could take their life away with the stroke of a pen. After authority figures refused to take a stand against racism, the noose incident led to a series of fights between white and black students.

After these fights, only the black students were charged–with attempted murder. The prosecutor and the town have refused to back down in prosecuting these young men, or to admit that hanging nooses is a hate crime. You can read the full report of Friends of Justice here:

http://friendsofjustice.wordpress.com/blog/

Do justice, walk humbly, love mercy.

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2.Brenda turner-bey said,
July 28, 2007 at 7:06 pm
i work with Juvenile offenders every day ,its like the machinery never gets full of young black flesh. The Criminal Justice System is a thorn in America’s side, it really needs to be revamped showing justice as opposed to injustice.
...it is essential for these young men to be set free, their white counterparts will never feel, taste, smell or see the tragedy that goes with labeling and convicting these youth. It’s a whole new world where we’re trying to come out from., institutionalized bigotry and prejudice still abides in this Great Country…called America, why we can’t comprehend it confounds me..!

I'm impressed by Barnett's clear line of thought
especially his pragmatic bottom line -- "don't fight the inevitable". His "inevitable" perhaps refers to what I'd interpret as some kind of "inevitable" trend in the historical development of human society such as what some would refer to as the rise and "inevitable" fall of certain major crucibles of human civilization such as ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt in Asia and North Africa leading to the rise of others such asGreece, Persia and later Rome to take center stage in the Mediterranean and West Asia. It's not so difficult to quarterback on well documented past historical trends but any attempt at crystalballing future historical trends has always been very ify except in certain exceptional cases because I tend to think the
future remains to be written when the wheel is still in spin.

Barnett seems to be appealing to "pragmatiste
internationale" camaraderie to try and forestall an imminent socio-political meltdown of the US empire reminiscent of the Soviet empire meltdown in the late 1980s and early 1990s triggered by the snowballing socio-economic crisis hitting the U.S. heartlands right now. Every U.S. citizen and permanent resident is carrying an estimated US$20,000 bill to be paid to Japan, EU, Saudi Arabia, China, South Korea, Taiwan and a few other Asian countries.
The last CEO of corporate America, mister President Clinton did a magnificent job turning the huge U.S. deficit around but Christian fundamentalists and their neocon handlers couldn't stand his slow trip. So they put Cowpoke Dubya on the line to turn that all around. UNfortunately, the Neocon's fundamentalistic double or nothing war mongering is heading straight for the docks. So now the thinktankers in DC are trying to back pedal to the "you stroke my Princes and I lick your Princesses" good old wheeling and dealing times along the line of Big Bill's. Now, I'm betting on Bill's wife Hilly to lead the coming "pragmatiste internationale" horse race.

Price of Bean Curd in Beijing

There is no free bean curd. In other places, you have to pay for it. But in Beijing, you have to “listen to” it.

Waking up at small hours again, I dialed 96310 to report on sharp noise from neighboring danwei. For the past five months, the city-administration hotline receptionist became more and more polite, but the noise turned larger and larger.
Last night, along with the noise, my family kept awake. Why is it so difficult to sleep at our own home?

We had never thought of this problem when we settled down three years ago. At that time, this block was regarded as a model in Haidian. From our windows, you could see the West Hills, Zizhuyuan Park, and walking people in the nearby streets. For Beijing dream of this kind, we had paid around-clock queuing for three days and high price at that time for our small home. Our dream did not last for three years. Now from our widows, you can only see new skyscrapers, and cars and real estate dealers in the street.

Then the nightmare followed. China Institute of Water Resources and Hydropower Research (IWHR), our neighboring danwei, is setting up two “faster, higher, and stronger” apartment buildings. They will be fast enough to end just before Olympics 2008, high enough to keep us from sunlight, and strong enough to build lower-than-half-market-price apartment buildings by getting free land from the government, although the government had prohibited and is still prohibiting its danweis from doing so.

This incident changed my stereotype of inefficient danweis. To my surprise, IWHR offered to talk with us about “harmonious” construction. The project managers came to visit our owners of Zhonghaifuyuan several times. When some worried about the fading sunlight, the managers explained that they had got official approval; when others worried about their babies’ health, the managers suggested that they move out for several months. In the end, the managers proposed that for the sake of “harmony” every family could get 50-60 yuan every month. That is to say, every family could get about 2 yuan, the price of bean curd, every day by listening to the noise.

However, many of us did not like it. Some tried to check with the urban planning authority about the project record, but were rejected for not knowing the record number; some proposed more alternative timetables, but were frustrated at my neighboring danwei’s day-and-night working enthusiasm; some turned to CCP and National Congressmen, but found the nearest ones were working at the neighboring danwei; other worried about whether they could get the bean-curd money, but they found the water resources and hydropower system was notorious for their way of improperly using state assets.

The IWHR is about 200 meters away from the Beijing Environmental Protection Administration, and about 800 meters away from the Ministry of Construction. If the government officials do not worry about the noise in the day, why should our ordinary people bear it at night? In our upgraded Beijing dream, there is not enough sleep and will not be enough sunlight, but we will have harmony and bean curd.

For Chinese post please refers to one of the following links:

http://forum.xinhuanet.com/detail.jsp?id=46833044
http://bbs.people.com.cn/postDetail.do?view=1&id=3244789&bid=1

Western people do not (and likely will not) have the imagination and wisdom to understand what the Chinese administration is trying to achieve.

This joker of a strategic thinker actually still thinks in terms of rich nation club!

One might remember China is first and foremost a communist country and their adoption of market economy doesn't preclude that particular ideology.

Try Marx. He's one of a very few westerners that has the wisdom approaching a chinese peasant.

I am sorry that every chinese girlfriend and boyfriend you abused left you.I am also sorry that our shoddy blow-up doll you bought with your life savings leaked. I am sorry your manhood was almost blown completely off by the cell phone explosion in your pants front pocket. (FYI, the battery that semi-castrated you was a made-in-Japan model.) As for "subway and bus vomiting, undrinkable water having, multicolored rice growing, 100 million fudge packing-pillow biting man nation," these too shall come to pass except for body fluid sharing, of course, except for you, I guess.

To know China's future, the Western world should study its past. Long history has brought Chinese people too much to learn, and Chinese are likely to go for the historic records to find out the solution for the new problems. They have no interest in expanding the territory, but they will keep the country intact and fight for the family reunion.

they've got. You got to stoop pretty low to argue with them, so why bother? Just don't even lower your standards to respond to them.