Not the People's Daily

Simon is as racism as ever.

Little Scrappy Simon stopped pretending to be a journalist any more. Fabricating news is what he does everyday annyway. Why not just go ahead with masterbating in public?

At least there is no hypocrisy anymore.

Pity.

It's East Turkestan, not East Turkmenistan.

-- Chinese Test Atomic Bomb in San Francisco - Militant
-- UN Headquarters Moves to Beijing - Not militant
-- Premier Wen Jiaobao is accompanied by Gov. Ma Yingjiu on a visit to Taipei - Not militant (but funny)
-- Yao Ming recovers, leads Rockets to NBA championship - Not militant
-- China Apologizes to U.S. for mistaken bomb attack on the Pentagon - Militant (but a reference to the accidental bombing of Chinese embassy)
-- Giant Earthquake in the Japanese islands; Chinese government sends
assistance; no survivors found thus far - Not militant (but cold)
-- Chinese Aircraft Carrier returns to Hawaii base to replenish food
and ammunition - Not militant (reference to US usage of Taiwan)
-- Chinese Military Destroys East Turkmenistan organization - Militant
-- Dalai Lama assassinated - Really friggin' militant
-- Cross Taiwan Straits Bridge completed - Not militant.
-- China Establishes second patriotic military base on the Moon. - Just plain funny.

All in all, not so bad. Comparing it to Nazism? That's a pretty loaded comment, Simon.

Simon is pissed off.

If you wanna some prove of “nationalist nuts” from the west, see the movie .

Is this still Time magazine???????????????????

Simon is pissed off.

If you wanna some prove of “nationalist nuts” from the west, see the movie "300" "Borad", and "south park" series.

Is this still Time magazine???????????????????

PS I　don't know what's wrong with my first comment everytime...

Wow, this is a new low, finding material from a satire to scare people. May I introduce to you "the onion"?

"Historians sometimes cite similar mix as being prevalent in Germany between the wars. That's not to say China will turn into Nazi Germany."

Simon is not saying China will turn into Nazi Germany, but Simon will put it out there anyway. Simon is still not saying it.

there is something prove you're stupid enough.

newspaper like this just a joke.
if you can read chinese,i promise you can get hundreds of things like this one.

if you ask a chinese:what you think about it?

they will say:你被耍了。
that is a popular sentence,
and

it made by adidas................

so enjoy it.

Here's some Nuke China stuff. Some say only Nazi Germany has people saying this sort of thing. But I'm not saying U.S is turning into Nazi Germany.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=51886

This is hilarious.

Simon Elegant, I have to say these past few of your posts have really disappointed me. I have been a regular china-blog visitor, I suspect I will still be one in the future, but I'll remember to take your articles with some additional grains of salt.

Let me pull out comments from that link for those of you who are too lazy to click.

can we nuke china now?

they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy.
I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.
God damn i HATE the chinese.

and we can draft the mexicans into service too,kill two birds with one stone.

no chinese atrocities and no more illegals ,sounds like a win win to me.

I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.
_______________________________________

but i will say,before we chinese people disappear,you 'll disapear first.

Hi guys you are going too far on politics.This fake newspaper post is hilarious on the first hand.Look at the article right below the "UN headquarters moved to Beijing" BS. Its title is " Premier Wen pointed out that graphic designers should have a salary raise to 300,000 per month and enjoy a three-day weekend".LOL.Obviously the author of this post is making fun and he/she sorta says,hey dude,I am only having fun or "e gao",so don't take it too seriously.

so..now..
chinese cann't even make a joke ....
Maybe u r too serious about the joke..
But don't judge chinese by this joke.
I'm almost speechless..

Dear Simon:

There are plenty of serious and objective discussions on all the subjects on the net written by Chinese citizens, and why you don't post any of them on this blog instead of this not-well-made joke. If you do this by a temporary anger, I can understand. But if you plan to do this, I doubt your intention. Because it seems that you are slandering the common Chinese people. You are trying to depict them as Nazism.

I am wondering why you are so interesting in this mock picture. This is just a joke. I have to say some of them are not appropriate, but some one just made it to express their frustrating feeling about the western world. From Bush's lies about Iraq to the western media's lies about the Tibet, the developed western countries have made too many lies that a common Chinese citizen can bear, they have to find a way to let their negative feelings go away.

You refuse to admit the obvious fault made by many western media, and are tying to make the issue even worse by post a nonsense joke. I have to say, I don't have any hope for the western world.

Although I spent most of my life in China, I was never a real communist. Actually I once believed that the so called western democracy system may help China in some way, they might bring some thing new to China. Now I know that the only stuff they can bring to us are more lies.

I am wondering why you are so interesting in this mock picture. This is just a joke. I have to say some of them are not appropriate, but some one just made it to express their frustrating feeling about the western world. From Bush's lies about Iraq to the western media's lies about the Tibet, the developed western countries have made too many lies that a common Chinese citizen can bear, they have to find a way to let their negative feelings go away.

You refuse to admit the obvious fault made by many western media, and are tying to make the issue even worse by post a nonsense joke. I have to say, I don't have any hope for the western world.

Simon,

A journalist are supposed to create communication and mutual-understanding. But what you are doing now, is to create more chaos, in the future, maybe more violence. I am deeply disappointed by you. May lord forgive you.

Hi Simon,

Have you even noticed the center of the page? If not, you probably don't understand this apparent parody. It reads: Premier Wen Jiabao(note the different "bao) points out graphic designers's monthly income increase to 300,000, with triple-day weekend.

See, it is basically a joke by a graphic designer. Ortherwise, how can you explain that this totally irrelevant piece (while other headlines are all about China's "nationalism") appears there?

I believe it's like Monty Python's tobaccohnist sketch. It's ONLY A JOKE.

He understands that this is a joke. But he feels that this joke allows a deep insight into the Chinese psyche, which he feels is similar to the Nazi psyche.

He understands that this is a joke. But he feels that this joke allows a deep insight into the Chinese psyche, which he feels is similar to the Nazi psyche.
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Maybe he understands the joke, but he don't FULLY understand it. Especially, I'm afraid he don't know what is "people's Daily" to those laypeople.

It's not a "deep insight" to "the Chinese psyche". Yes, maybe it's a insight to some individuals, but how can you see the Chinese psyche simply by a parody? Can you see a deep insight in to American psyche by a picture of nazi (yes, real nazi) activities in the U.S.

I didn't say I agreed with him. I was explaining that there's no point in telling him that it's a joke/parody; he knows that already. He described it as a mock/humorous essay. He just feels that it grants him insight into the (Nazi-like?) current Chinese psyche.

I didn't say I agreed with him. I was explaining that there's no point in telling him that it's a joke/parody; he knows that already. He described it as a mock/humorous essay. He just feels that it grants him insight into the (Nazi-like?) current Chinese psyche.
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Let me say it again, whether you agree with him or not is irrelevant: it's not a "deep insight" to "the Chinese psyche". Yes, maybe it's a insight to some individuals in China, but how can you see the Chinese psyche simply by a parody? Can you see a deep insight in into American psyche by a picture of nazi (yes, real nazi) activities in the U.S.?

Of course it's a joke made by a graphic designer, but it also mirrors some common views of Chinese. You can see tons of things like that in China's Web. China is bullied by western countries hundreds of yeas but Now she is much more powerful. This joke means the recovery of self-confident of Chinese

We can see it is a joke made by a graphic desinger. It is just a joke. You can find tons of thing like that. It mirror the recovery of self-confidence of a country bullied by western countries more than 100 years

I know Simon know it's a mock, although I don't think Simon fully understand it. In my opinion, it's a pure joke, like what Monty Python did in their sketches. Of course there're nationalists in China. But you can't draw any conclusion by a single frame of parody.

On a sceond thought, what about this: the page Simon posted is actually a satire made by a graphic designer who, intentionally created this to mock around those nationalists nuts? Since every person with reason can see it's absurd, there is a possibility. So you can't draw you conclusion, even speculation that fast.

Personally, I don't think it's a good idea to test a nuclear weapon in San Francisco. There are many ethnic Chinese there.

the fake newspaper is just hilarious
and you try to judge chinese by a joke? funny ,huh

Simon might understand chinese languge,but I don't think he totally understand chinese people and the way of our life

Dear Simon and brothers:

LOL, the pic is just ONE JOKE from one/some younger, don't exaggerate.

here is a photo special for Simon
http://i29.tinypic.com/etdys7.jpg

here is a photo special for Simon
http://i29.tinypic.com/etdys7.jpg

Posted by 天涯观光团 | March 29, 2008 9:50 AM
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your brave innocent monk soldiers beat your "nazi chinese",you might enjoy it ,Mr Elegant

Isn't it just a joke, even a self mockery?

I totally agree with you "ChinaLawBlog ",It's a self mockery denfinetly !
but serious Mr Elegant might not understand

I supposed you to be very clever but you were in fact a fool after seeing this picture you posted.
Do you belive that??
Oh my god.I felt much sympathy for TIME.
How did TIME can hire a employee like you..
I sincerely hope you will lose your job soon.
^_^

天涯观光团
随团观光，BS一下CNN

你真是太有才了，这张报纸是你自己印刷的吧。有时间来天涯学习一下，别做得太假了，水份100%/////发现你们这些老外真是脑子有问题,那么有才的东西也弄得出来.以后人民日报靠你来宣传了.
了西方媒体总是想黑中国,真是什么事都做得出.真可悲真可笑,怕中国的实力超过你们,你们自己不长进,怪不得我们超过你们.竟然还弄出那么假的海外版的中国日报.希望上面的预言能够实现,到时候你来到中国,中国人民给扔给你几毛钱的.

Simon knew it is a joke - he mentioned 'mock/humorous'. But why did he use a joking piece to illustrate Chinese nationalism? He even talked about Nazi!

I think this perfectly illustrates the manipulative nature of Western media and journalism.

UN headquarter moves to Beijing? Why not? It's currently located in US, and manipulated easily by the US. When the US launched the Gulf wars they simply ignored UN.

China Apologizes to U.S. for mistaken bomb attack on the Pentagon? Hmm, Chinese are as polite as Americans. Pentagon did apologize to China for 'mistaken bomb attach' on the Chinese embassy.

Chinese Aircraft Carrier returns to Hawaii base? Well, that's a wild vision. But American aircraft carriers go through the Taiwan Strait whenever they think there is a need of intimidation.

Guys who have always been bullying people are now pointing fingers to the bullied for their dreams of not being bullied any more. They believe might is always right. And that explains their fear for the rise of the dragon.

It is not the People's Daily all right. But it is what all the Chinese posters think everyday, everyhour, every minute, but just don't have the integrity to admit it. Their posts reflect their mentality, or lack of, very clearly. That's why they make the big money.

I supposed you to be very clever but you were in fact a fool after seeing this picture you posted.
Do you belive that??
Oh my god.I felt much sympathy for TIME.
How did TIME can hire a employee like you..
I sincerely hope you will lose your job soon.
^_^

Sorry I take back what I said above.
I didn't read your article just see the picture, then post those words at that time.
Now I read it.And find it's no more than a misunderstanding.
I felt confident about our country's future.
She will be more and more stronger.
Maybe sometime the events on this newspaper will be come true someday^_^

做人不能CNN!!

i can't understand why your westerners are always so interested in slandering our country.china is a large country with a long history and complicated ethnic minority issues,which you can't really onvince yourself of.so leave us alone ,ok? it's our private affair. even if you will not do anything help,plz,don't slagg off my country any more!!!

i love my country,where i've lived for more than 20 years, i love my compatriots,and we all love peace and freedom so much!!!

my english is not so good,i hope you can understand what i'm talking about.anyway,i just wanna get myself heared ,as a common chinese citizen.

Maybe sometime the events on this newspaper will be come true someday^_^

Posted by zhongguoren | March 29, 2008 1:33 PM

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I don't think so ,I mean I hope "World peace"!!
I hate wars
I'm just a little embarrassed by your stupid words
sorry

We should not have racial discrimination ,nazi is shamefulness

please ....come back to tianya forum ,I beg you ,please.....

It is not the People's Daily all right. But it is what all the Chinese posters think everyday, everyhour, every minute, but just don't have the integrity to admit it. Their posts reflect their mentality, or lack of, very clearly. That's why they make the big money.

Posted by John Smith | March 29, 2008 1:31 PM

hahahaha
I don't think anyone made me laugh so loud lately. Thanks Johnny!

Dear Chinese folks,

If you have not read the following articles, please read them. They are not bias at all. As you can see from the articles how the “enemies “are organized, financed and how they are moving toward their goals, so be prepared for a long and fierce battle to defend Beijing Olympic Game.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080328.wtibetcampaign0328/BNStory/International/home

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/28/asia/darfur.php?page=1

I have to remind you that your “enemies” now are not foreign governments, but dissatisfied whatsoever groups. From their viewpoint, it seems that Chinese people had no rights of enjoying a peaceful, cheerful and exciting Game because the Chinese were so unfortunate to have a government that always protects China’s national interests such as purchasing oil from the Sudanese government and controlling the resources in the rooftop of the world in order to make China more prosperous. China’s prosperity and prominence have made many people, especially many well-heeled and well-pampered people, very jealous as you all know.

Mr. Elegant did not say that China will become like Nazi Germany because he said: "that's not to say China will turn into Nazi Germany." One could argue that this remark meant to distance himself from the history statement he made, however, his subsequent sentence clearly negates such an outcome. His subsequent sentences says: "it will be fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years. I'd guess that as the country's self-confidence grows there'll be less of this sort of thing, which speaks more of insecurity than anything else." This means that unlike Germany, China will instead follow a peaceful pass.

Many people made the mistake of assuming Mr. Elegant compared China to Nazi Germany because Mr. Elegant assumed people were adequately familiar with European history. If he at all reads the comments to his blog posts perhaps the assertions of some commentators that they know history convinced him of their knowledge of European history.

I will tell the history, which Mr. Elegant assumed everyone knew. Between World War I and World War II German newspapers and many popular beliefs argued that Germany was the historical victim of Europe. They claimed that that Germany was subject to invasion and control by non-Germanic people. They said that one day Germany will rise and become powerful and the world will no longer mistreat Germany. Likewise, people say that China will rise up and will no longer be abused by foreign powers. Comments to this blog also make these same remarks and some even hint towards a rise that will involve retribution. However, Mr. Elegant argues that unlike Germany, China will have a peaceful rise. Again his blog says: "it will be fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years. I'd guess that as the country's self-confidence grows there'll be less of this sort of thing, which speaks more of insecurity than anything else." His words mean that like Germany, China feels abused but China, unlike Germany, will take a "fascinating" path of peaceful "self-confidence." In short he said that Nazi Germany took a violent path to national "self-confidence" but China will go on a fascinating/beautiful path to national self-confidence.

Mr. Elegant did not say that China will become like Nazi Germany because he said: "that's not to say China will turn into Nazi Germany." One could argue that this remark meant to distance himself from the history statement he made, however, his subsequent sentence clearly negates such an outcome. His subsequent sentences says: "it will be fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years. I'd guess that as the country's self-confidence grows there'll be less of this sort of thing, which speaks more of insecurity than anything else." This means that unlike Germany, China will instead follow a peaceful pass.

Many people made the mistake of assuming Mr. Elegant compared China to Nazi Germany because Mr. Elegant assumed people were adequately familiar with European history. If he at all reads the comments to his blog posts perhaps the assertions of some commentators that they know history convinced him of their knowledge of European history.

I will tell the history, which Mr. Elegant assumed everyone knew. Between World War I and World War II German newspapers and many popular beliefs argued that Germany was the historical victim of Europe. They claimed that that Germany was subject to invasion and control by non-Germanic people. They said that one day Germany will rise and become powerful and the world will no longer mistreat Germany. Likewise, people say that China will rise up and will no longer be abused by foreign powers. Comments to this blog also make these same remarks and some even hint towards a rise that will involve retribution. However, Mr. Elegant argues that unlike Germany, China will have a peaceful rise. Again his blog says: "it will be fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years. I'd guess that as the country's self-confidence grows there'll be less of this sort of thing, which speaks more of insecurity than anything else." His words mean that like Germany, China feels abused but China, unlike Germany, will take a "fascinating" path of peaceful "self-confidence." In short he said that Nazi Germany took a violent path to national "self-confidence" but China will go on a fascinating/beautiful path to national self-confidence.

Sorry for the double post.

Correction to the second sentence of my above comment.

"One could argue that this remark meant to distance himself from the history statement he made WHILE STILL MAKING IT, however, his subsequent sentence clearly negates such an outcome."

Sorry for being lazy and not proofreading.

天涯观光团之pizijiao Simon先生的雷文尽出啊。(-.-)|||

Simon, let me provide you a suggestion. Do not try to translate the Chinese word to word, but try to understand what Chinese thinking, and our behave. If you just a translator, you will always misleading Americian.

Be smart lady. China getting stronger is a historical trend. You will never block it.

BTW: Please do not write "The China Blog" on the title. You do not understand China and Chinese at all.

To Mimi ,Simon any all you guys
I'm a han chinese ,and I love Tibet and tibentan people

Rashomon is Japanese film directed by Akira Kurosawa
In the film,a woman was raped and her husband was dead.
and four different characters told four conflicting witness accounts
Because each person want to hide their faults and weakness

and here is a Tibet Rashomon version:
the Tibetan government in exile and the Beijing government tell us quite different stories about tibet , for they each have their own "weakness" and "benefits".
and here we have to say they all hide part of the truth,don't they?

Therefore, in order to find out the truth, we need a neutral third party.
I strongly recommend you read a book written by Wang Lixiong --天葬：西藏的命运(Sky Burial: the Fate of Tibet)
you can google it :)
Wang Lixiong is a free writer, a Han chinese whose wife is a Tibetan, and Wang has met with Dalai Lama for four times.
I think even though the book is not a bible of tibet ,but compared to the propaganda of Tibetan government in exile and the Beijing government, the book probably comes closest to the real truth.

If you really care about Tibet and tibetan people , you really should take a look :)

观光团again!! OH YEAH!!!!

Dear Mimi,

The global mail is a Canadian paper which always post bias toward Chinese and Chinese government. STOP reading it. You will get "brain washed" by the Global Mail. Trust me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My little little simon boy

Too young ，too simple，sometimes naive

tianyagroup
鱼香茄子

你从一个恶作剧看出中国人像纳粹，太有才了

我经常看南方公园，能从这片子研究美国人吗？

tianyagroup
鱼香茄子

尊敬的西蒙先生：

您好，看了你的BLOG我很吃惊，非常钦佩您对中国的了解。您是我知道的最了解中国的美国人，您对中国的认识已经超过我了8岁的外甥。不同的是他偶尔还尿床，您却在为伟大的时代杂志工作，我都不敢把您的成就告诉我可怜的姐姐，她一直认为她的儿子是全世界最聪明的。一个问题困扰了我很久，博学客观的您一定能有解决办法。我的小外甥一直认为他是火星人，是来解放地球受苦受难的人民的，而我们都是被异形洗脑的奴隶。我用尽了一切办法，也不能动摇他的火星信仰，请您一定要帮帮我。

BY小女生

being teased by us schoolboys, Simon are now using a sophistic tone to express his anger.

to Mimi

they are bias. we don't really care about what these arrogant and ignorant groups protest. they are merely nobodies even in their own countries. however, if they dare to come to China to make trouble, they'll pay for it severely.

To Cavazos

I know Mr Elegant said "That's not to say China will turn into Nazi Germany"
In my opinion, nazi is heinous
I hate wars ,I hate racial discrimination
and I love my country ,deeply

Mr Elegant knew the fake "people daily" is just a joke and a self-mockery very well,but still,he mentioned some "nazi" words in the article

yes,I have to say I really feel a little uncomfortale and insulted about those "nazi" words

anyway ,thank you for your post :)

尊敬的西蒙先生：

您好，看了你的BLOG我很吃惊，非常钦佩您对中国的了解。您是我知道的最了解中国的美国人，您对中国的认识已经超过我了8岁的外甥。不同的是他偶尔还尿床，您却在为伟大的时代杂志工作，我都不敢把您的成就告诉我可怜的姐姐，她一直认为她的儿子是全世界最聪明的。一个问题困扰了我很久，博学客观的您一定能有解决办法。我的小外甥一直认为他是火星人，是来解放地球受苦受难的人民的，而我们都是被异形洗脑的奴隶。我用尽了一切办法，也不能动摇他的火星信仰，请您一定要帮帮我。

BY小女生

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谁把这个翻译一下，太搞了 哈哈哈

http://www.google.cn/language_tools?hl=zh-CN

天涯的姑娘们，把文章都看全了再来灌水好吗？
大家不要玩了，都回家吧，好不好！

不同意别人的观点，也要保持礼貌！

A canticle and the romance.

When the sunshine
returns in the
light of a gentle
delight, remember
the sound of a
rosy notepaper,
discover the wisdom
in the care of a
beautiful darkness
and so, in the sky,
that delicate dream
will touch your
profile....

Francesco Sinibaldi

I would like to apologize for those young girls' offensive words and spams

those are just young girls' pranks
sorry !everybody

@ schoolboy
who the hell are u?

don't use the 友邦惊诧论 again, Simon is making a stupid mistake, we are just helping him, for world peace.

as long as Simon quoting words from TianYa, he's inviting us to come

to xili
I'm just a chinese citizen who love my country ,hate racial discrimination and nazi
I don't think scurrilities is a wise way to show someone's emotions and their true heart

thank you

天涯观光团就是schoolboy
我现在不过是把显示名称修改了

所以，我才觉得我对这些言论有责任，没别的意思...

每个人想法不同吧，我觉得无论怎样都不应该不骂人

有理说理，谩骂毫无帮助

@ schoolboy

I do not want you to feel insulted, because it is a terrible thing for one person to insult another's country and people. If someone said that China today is just like Nazi Germany, then Chinese peoples would be naturally insulted because someone said a terrible thing.

On a side note, it is also stupid to compare Germany to China because their histories are totally different, which leads me to my point. Mr. Elegant does not think that Nazi Germany and China are the same, in fact, his post says that they are different.

Mr. Elegant tried to say that if someone compares Nazi Germany to China they are ignorant, but he was not too clear since he did not say it very directly. When he said "historians sometimes cite similar mix as being prevalent in Germany between the wars" he quoted what other people said. He did not quote them like how the Pope quoted a letter to make Muslims angry (the letter that said Islam is violent). The Pope made that quote to say the statement but not attribute it to himself. Here, Mr. Elegant quoted what some historians said to discredit those historians. He did this the following way: (1) quote what some historians say, and then (2) say that those historians are wrong because Chinese development will be peaceful (i.e. "fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years"). If he wanted to agree with those historians he would have said something like "we have to learn the lesson of WWII."

I only comment on this post because I think Mr. Elegant tried to say something positive about China's future (peaceful rise) but he did not write using direct English but more abstract English. I think he grew up in Hong Kong so he probably learned how to write in the more abstract British way. Whenever I read British writing I always think "get to the point, or, what is your point?" That is the problem here, he writes too much like a Brit.

RE Cavazos:

Please don't insult the intelligence of the reader by trying to spin the Nazi comment into something good. Including Nazi Germany in any context is guilt by association, and even if he had just said, 'China is better than Nazi Germany', that is praising with faint damnations. Saying, "Nazi's do what you do. But I'm sure you won't turn out to be like Nazi's." That's, in no way, a good comment.

"你真是太有才了，这张报纸是你自己印刷的吧。有时间来天涯学习一下，别做得太假了，水份100%/////发现你们这些老外真是脑子有问题,那么有才的东西也弄得出来.以后人民日报靠你来宣传了.
了西方媒体总是想黑中国,真是什么事都做得出.真可悲真可笑,怕中国的实力超过你们,你们自己不长进,怪不得我们超过你们.竟然还弄出那么假的海外版的中国日报.希望上面的预言能够实现,到时候你来到中国,中国人民给扔给你几毛钱的."

"You really are too brilliant! Did you publish this newspaper 'article' yourself? When you have the chance, come to Tianya and study. Don't make up too much stuff, this is pretty much 100% exaggeration///I've noticed that you foreigners really have mental issue. You can even produce such 'genius' pieces of work. In the future, the People's Daily should rely on your journalistic/propaganda skills [definitely not a compliment].

The damn Western media really can do anything in order to make China look bad. What a tragedy, and what a hilarious farce! You're afraid of China's strength surpassing yours, but aren't improving on your side. No wonder we're beginning to overtake you! You actually produced an 'overseas version' of the China Daily. I hope the predictions in it will one day come true. Then, one day when you return to the People's Republic, the people of China will throw you a few dimes."

"你从一个恶作剧看出中国人像纳粹，太有才了

我经常看南方公园，能从这片子研究美国人吗？"

"From a comedy sketch, you can see into the psyche of the Chinese people? What a talent you are.

I often watch 'Northern Garden' [no clue what this is], can I analyze and understand Americans based on this?"

"尊敬的西蒙先生：

您好，看了你的BLOG我很吃惊，非常钦佩您对中国的了解。您是我知道的最了解中国的美国人，您对中国的认识已经超过我了8岁的外甥。不同的是他偶尔还尿床，您却在为伟大的时代杂志工作，我都不敢把您的成就告诉我可怜的姐姐，她一直认为她的儿子是全世界最聪明的。一个问题困扰了我很久，博学客观的您一定能有解决办法。我的小外甥一直认为他是火星人，是来解放地球受苦受难的人民的，而我们都是被异形洗脑的奴隶。我用尽了一切办法，也不能动摇他的火星信仰，请您一定要帮帮我。

BY小女生 "

"To the respected Mister Meng [Meng also means ignorant/cheat]:

Hello sir. After reading your blog, I was very surprised. I highly admire your depth of understanding of China. You, sir, amongst the Americans I know, are the one who understands China the best; your understanding of China has far surpassed that of my 8-year old nephew. The main difference is that he wets his bed every once in a while, whereas you work at the great Times magazine. I don't dare tell my poor sister about your great accomplishments; she's always believed that her son is the smartest in the entire world.

There's been a question which has puzzled me for a very long time. As an objective, learned scholar, you, sir, can surely help me. My young nephew always considered himself a Martian, who has come to rescue the poor, downtrodden people, whereas we are all brainwashed slaves. I've done everything I can, but I just can't shake his Martian conviction. Please, sir, you must help me.

By a young woman."

"天涯的姑娘们，把文章都看全了再来灌水好吗？
大家不要玩了，都回家吧，好不好！

不同意别人的观点，也要保持礼貌！"

"Girls of the Tianya forum, can you at least fully read the articles before coming to spam? Everyone, let's stop messing around, let's all go home, alright?

Even if you don't agree with other people's views, you should still be polite."

"天涯观光团就是schoolboy
我现在不过是把显示名称修改了

所以，我才觉得我对这些言论有责任，没别的意思...

每个人想法不同吧，我觉得无论怎样都不应该不骂人

有理说理，谩骂毫无帮助"

"Tianya Travel Group is 'schoolboy'. All I've done is to change the name.

Therefore, I feel that I hold a certain degree of responsibility with regards to these posts, that's all.

Every person has different opinions, and I believe that no matter what, we shouldn't curse at people.

If logic is on your side, argue with logic. Verbally abusing people is not constructive at all."

Sorry, "南方公园" should be "Southern Garden"...still have no idea what it is though.

To Cavazos ,
thank you ,and now I feel much better :)

would you mind if I translate your post into chinese for thoese chinese readers

:)

hehe 张三同学来啦
nice to see u :)

那张三同学把Cavazos的留言翻成中文吧 ：）
辛苦张三同学了

我们所做的，应该是让这个世界更了解我们，而不是更误解我们 ：）

Sorry, I can translate from Chinese to English, but not from English to Chinese. My grasp of Chinese vocabulary, idioms, etc. is not good enough; I would draw away focus from his points by my crappy Chinese :)

"我们所做的，应该是让这个世界更了解我们，而不是更误解我们 ：）"

"Through our actions, we should be trying to allow the people of the world to achieve greater mutual understanding, instead of causing people to misunderstand us even more."

Sorry, "南方公园" should be "Southern Garden"...still have no idea what it is though.

Posted by Zhangsan | March 29, 2008 4:59 PM

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southpark

LOL!!!!! Southpark? Haha, got it. Thanks!~

Dear schoolboy(s),

I have to apologize for my confusion of how many of you are out there.

First of all, I am too old to be brainwashed by a mere newspaper. Secondly, the articles are really not biased. The articles only tell you who were behind all these, sometimes farcical, protests and uprising. Actually, the Canadian article can be used as evidence to prove the view of the Chinese government that the Dalai Lama clique was behind the recent riot in Tibet. Haven’t you noticed that a core organizer is well-connected to the inner circle of the Dalai Lama? If you have read the American article, you can see how a faded Hollywood star used her old family ties to a well-groomed famous anchor to create a propaganda opportunity for her “charity”?

So, please do not lose your cool head(s) and read the articles carefully. As they say, you will know where your best strategy stands only when you know your enemy well (知己知彼，百战百胜).

Cavazos ,
I like your post, too.

@ Zhangsan

Please explain to me how saying something like "although both China and Germany were abused by foreigners, China will be peaceful even though Germany was violent" is guilt by association. That is not guilt by association, that is called "contrasting." Contrasting has the effect of saying that they are different and should NOT be associated together.

Let me explain this contrasting, but first let's make sure we both know some history. Do you agree with me that China has been abused for the past 200 years by Europeans? Do you also agree me that Chinese people have not liked this abuse? Now, do you know enough about history to know that Germans between WWI and WWII also claimed to have been likewise abused for the past 1000 years? If you argue in good faith, you will agree with me that this is true. Now to the main point.

Mr. Elegant CONTRASTED China and Germany. He did not associate them. He said that they will be different, even though they both made a public point about being abused by foreigners. This is very clear. Spinning something means that you will distort what some is trying to say. It would be spin if you say someone is associating something rather than contrasting something. To say that he compares Nazi Germany to China is either not understanding what he says but still have good faith, or having bad faith and deliberately spinning/distorting what he said.

Mr. Elegant is writing to Westerners (not Chinese peoples in China) and telling Westerners not to worry about China because China will be peaceful. He says that Westerners are wrong if they think that some rhetoric or humor used by Chinese resembles German history.

楼主,我是个土生土长的中国人，制造矛盾加深误会是我的强项，而且也非常善于伪装。自信我的这些能力远在多数美国人之上，我想找份整美元的工作。希望你能帮忙推荐一下，时代杂志啊，CIA最差也要CNN啦，他们一定很需要我这样的人，由于我的身份，美国人和中国人都更容易相信我。你给联系一下，我以后工资每个月给你15%的提成。

my english is crappy....-_-
anyway thank you zhansan :)

以下翻译自Cavazos的留言，仅代表Cavazos的立场 ：）

我不想让你（你们）感觉受到侮辱，因为对一个人来说，侮辱了他的国家和人民是一件很可怕的事情

从另一边来说，把中国和纳粹相比是很愚蠢的，因为他们的历史完全不同，这是我的观点
Simon Elegant先生并不认为中国和纳粹一样，事实上，他的文章里说他们是不同的
Simon Elegant先生先生试图说明，如果有人把试图把中国和纳粹相比，那么这些人是无知的。
但是因为他的表达方式不是直接的，所以可能他说出来的不是特别清楚
当他说"historians sometimes cite similar mix as being prevalent in Germany between the wars" 他是在引用别人的话
（中间省略部分内容）
他引用了这些历史学家的话，并对这些内容表示了怀疑
他是这么做的：
首先引用了历史学家的话。
然后又说这些话是错的，因为中国的发展将是和平的（例子，他写到"fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years"）
如果他是同意这些历史学家的话，那么他就会写“我们要从第二次世界大战中吸取教训”
我只在这篇日志里留过言，因为我觉得Simon Elegant先生是想写一些关于中国未来的正面的消息（和平崛起）
但是他没有用一种直接的英语方式来表达，而用了一种比较抽象的表达方式
我觉得可能是因为他在香港长大，所以学习的是比较抽象的英式英语吧
每次我读到一些英式英语，我总会想“赶紧找到点子，或者你的中心思想在哪呢？”
这就是问题所在，他的写作方式太英国化了

原文：
I do not want you to feel insulted, because it is a terrible thing for one person to insult another's country and people. If someone said that China today is just like Nazi Germany, then Chinese peoples would be naturally insulted because someone said a terrible thing.

On a side note, it is also stupid to compare Germany to China because their histories are totally different, which leads me to my point. Mr. Elegant does not think that Nazi Germany and China are the same, in fact, his post says that they are different.

Mr. Elegant tried to say that if someone compares Nazi Germany to China they are ignorant, but he was not too clear since he did not say it very directly. When he said "historians sometimes cite similar mix as being prevalent in Germany between the wars" he quoted what other people said. He did not quote them like how the Pope quoted a letter to make Muslims angry (the letter that said Islam is violent). The Pope made that quote to say the statement but not attribute it to himself. Here, Mr. Elegant quoted what some historians said to discredit those historians. He did this the following way: (1) quote what some historians say, and then (2) say that those historians are wrong because Chinese development will be peaceful (i.e. "fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years"). If he wanted to agree with those historians he would have said something like "we have to learn the lesson of WWII."

I only comment on this post because I think Mr. Elegant tried to say something positive about China's future (peaceful rise) but he did not write using direct English but more abstract English. I think he grew up in Hong Kong so he probably learned how to write in the more abstract British way. Whenever I read British writing I always think "get to the point, or, what is your point?" That is the problem here, he writes too much like a Brit.

Posted by Cavazos | March 29, 2008 4:45 PM

RE Cavazaros:

First, please drop the patronizing tone. I'm not upset, but I really don't appreciate it.

The comment Simon made was, "X has lots of similarities with Y. That doesn't mean X will turn out to be like Y though." That, by itself, is a highly charged comment when Y is as a universally hated, disparaged movement such as Nazism.

At no point did he contrast China and Germany; in fact, at no point did he even suggest that he believed China won't turn out to be like Germany. He said, and I quote, "That's not to say China will turn out like Nazi Germany." That is not a repudiation; that just means that he isn't making the assertion. "I'm not saying China will turn out like Nazi Germany" doesn't equate to "China will not turn out like Nazi Germany". Nuance, please. So let me repeat. He did not say,

"although both China and Germany were abused by foreigners, China will be peaceful even though Germany was violent"

He said,

"Historians sometimes cite similar mix as being prevalent in Germany between the wars. That's not to say China will turn into Nazi Germany."

The former, your interpretation, would be a repudiation. The second is associating without conflating the two. Again, you need to look at the nuances.

I don't know whether English is your first language, but it certainly is mine. Please do not try to imply that my reading comprehension is lacking.

Zhangsan

"楼主,我是个土生土长的中国人，制造矛盾加深误会是我的强项，而且也非常善于伪装。自信我的这些能力远在多数美国人之上，我想找份整美元的工作。希望你能帮忙推荐一下，时代杂志啊，CIA最差也要CNN啦，他们一定很需要我这样的人，由于我的身份，美国人和中国人都更容易相信我。你给联系一下，我以后工资每个月给你15%的提成。"

"House owner [Chinese idiom referring to thread starter/blogger, ie Simon], I am a person who was born and raised on Chinese soil. I'm quite good at creating contradictions and deepening misunderstanding amongst people, and I'm very good at pretending. I think my abilities in these areas are above that of most Americans, and so I want to find a job which would pay in American dollars. I hope you can recommend some places for me to work, such as Times Magazine, the CIA, or even CNN. They certainly can use people like me. With regards to my status as a Chinese person, both Americans and Chinese will both find it easy to believe me. Please use your connections to help me out, in the future, I'll give you 15% of my wages."

fake!!!!!!....
I just check the newspaper online
the link is below: http://paper.people.com.cn/rmrbhwb/html/2008-03/22/node_34.htm

It doesn't matter if you can understand Chinese. Pay a attention on the date on the blue bar.

"PEOPLE'S DAILY OVERSEA EDITION, 2008年3月22日“

Jesus Christ,what a mess .....

@ Zhangsan

First, you ignore his subsequent sentences. What does "Just that it will be fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years. I'd guess that as the country's self-confidence grows there'll be less of this sort of thing, which speaks more of insecurity than anything else" mean? That is the repudiation.

Furthermore, my tone is not patronising. Instead, I am explaining how what I said is not "spin." You said I did some spin. When you say that someone is spinning, you accuse them of deliberate distortion, which is a form of lying.

I am not second-guessing your specific reading comprehension, I am just asking you to include the subsequent sentences (to wit, "Just that it will be fascinating to watch attitudes change in coming years. I'd guess that as the country's self-confidence grows there'll be less of this sort of thing, which speaks more of insecurity than anything else.") when you state what Mr. Elegant is saying. Repudiations usually come after quoting something, rather than before, right?

Dear Cavazos,

I appreciate your clarifying comments which I consider deeply sincere. And I appreciate the dialog.

I agree that Simon's post did qualify the Nazi comparison in the end of the paragraph. And the qualification seems to suggest he himself seems not to believe in the comparison entirely.

That said, taking as a whole, negating the innuendo and sinophobia that are clearly present in not only the premise of this article but also the minds of many westerners is not the main thesis of this article. And it's such blithe innuendo that's insulting to me and most likely many Chinese people.

To everyone:

A person alleged that I insulted "the intelligence of the reader" with my explanation of Mr. Elegant's article. I want to make it very clear that I would not dare insult anyone's intelligence. Unlike Mr. Elegant, I am very cautious to be sure people understand what I am trying to communicate.

I believe everyone here has very good English skills and are very intelligent, but beyond knowledge of language there remains cultural differences. Such cultural differences are the cause of most misunderstandings. I think that Chinese people communicate directly to each other while Brits and Americans communicate indirectly to each other. In Mr. Elegant's culture he learned to communicate indirectly, that is why he buries the point of his writing. Everyone understand's his English but not his cultural way of communicating. I try to translate Mr. Elegant's cultural way of communicating so that everyone may understand his point. It is tragic if someone feels insulted because of cultural differences that unintentionally distorts someone's message.

I think the direct way of communicating is superior to the indirect way. Recently Americans and even Brits are being taught that writing directly is superior. If you read documents from the 19th century, the way people wrote English is almost incomprehensible because it was so indirect. People who got an LLB in Law in Hong Kong universities know what I am talking about because they read English court cases from the 19th century. I think Mr. Elegant is too old to have been part of this new way of teaching people to write.

Cavazos, before I say anything else, I want to apologize for being a bit short-tempered in my previous responses to you. I'm busy translating a bunch of Chinese posts, so I've been a bit brusque in my responses, and I appreciate that you've been very good-tempered about it. Thanks again :)

Zhangsan

Where are the other editors?
Are we reading Simon Blog, not China Blog?
I just feel so tired to read this kind of childish things from Simon again.

Time, CNN etc, please.............

@ Zhihua

Thank you for your understanding.

There is a lot of sinophobia, I definitely agree with that assertion. It is certainly very reasonable to say that there may be sinophobic innuendo in this particular posting.

A year ago when I was browsing the People's Daily (to know what the party was thinking) I came upon an article which directed me to a Time Magazine article on China. I read this edition of the magazine because even the People's Daily said it was very smart. I posted the People's Daily article in a previous post of this blog. When I read the article again I noticed that it specifically named Mr. Elegant and said that he had a good view of China being very peaceful. This is the article:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200701/26/eng20070126_345124.html

I am not saying that Mr. Elegant is free of sinophobia or that it is impossible for him to write something sinophobic. Instead, if there may be different interpretations to what someone said in a posting lets also consider his past when trying to understand his point.

Also, I do think that a person may change, so maybe Mr. Elegant's opinions have changed.

Since I am younger than Mr. Elegant I write more directly than Mr. Elegant, so I am trying to translate Mr. Elegant's old-fashion way of indirectly writing to the direct way of writing. I think when someone writes directly and with enough information they can then counter reasonable misinterpretations or perceptions of any innuendo.

I think Zhihua's latest post has covered what I wanted to say.

@ Zhangsan

No problem! I too apologize if I sounded insulting. Some of my posts gave basic information that everyone knows (abuses China suffered), which can be insulting because it may be inferred that someone is trying to say the other is ignorant of such information. I did not mean it to be insulting or a patronising. I just want to be on the same page so that there is no misunderstanding of at least what historic information I am using or what I am trying to say.

Look at all the butterfly effect I made. Hoho~

I am sorry, past wrongs?

Are they really past? Did you guys at least say sorry for what you've done to China? National terrorism? come on! At least we have NOT bombed any US embassies! At least we did NOT nuclear attack Hiroshima and Nagasaki though Japan had killed so many Chinese people in WW2. What? who did them all? Unbelievable! it's United states! the freest country in the world! Free of speech! Free of massacre! A country who claims it can't care about human rights more but killed so many civilians in the IRAQ war. A country who killed another country's ambassadors and blamed it on an incorrect MAP!A country who breaks into other countries, drops bombs on other's land, kills other's people and claims all of these are for the "JUSTICE"! Bravo America!

Funny part is, a country like this now is accusing China of being a threat to other countries? Lol. A country who has used nuclear weapon accused a country who had never used nuclear weapon on others?

mr. elegant, you crack me up :))

so you similarly believe that all males who have made/enjoyed a sexiest joke are gonna become rapists???

oh my goodness i can't imagine living under your level of stress and paranoia......

mr. elegant, you crack me up :))

so you similarly believe that all males who have made/enjoyed a sexiest joke are gonna become rapists???

oh my goodness i can't imagine living under your level of stress and paranoia......

I am sorry for giving the wrong impression. Let me clarify. Whenever I wrote "past wrongs" China suffered please replace it with "past and present wrongs".

To simon

perfect,powerful!

Don not pretend to be a Virgin, if not, you will be hit by thunder.

ha ha ha

天涯猫猫

I am sorry, past wrongs?

are they really past? have you people at least say sorry for what you've done to China? You want to talk about China's threat let's talk about threats. Have China bombed American embassies and blamed it on an inccorect MAP? Have China nuclear attacked Hiroshima and Nagasaki just to make Japan surrender sooner? Have China invaded other countries to find the so-called WMD and ended up finding nothing after destroying all the cities and making thousands of civilians homeless? What? Who's done them all? United States! Unblievable!

What a free country who can not care about human rights more and killed so many civilians in IRAQ war! What a country who breaks in other countries, drops bombs on other's land, kills other's people and claims all of these are for "JUSTICE"! What a country who judges others all the time and never have even for one second thought about what they are doing? Bravo America!

Now who looks like more Nazi?

sorry for posting it twice----didn't mean to do that but it prompted me "page forbidden" at the first time.

I am sorry, but I will post something off topic to this present China Blog post but which may be of some interest to people. The Western media is finally starting to talk about the innocent victims of the mob riots in Lhasa. Here is a NYTimes article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/world/asia/28victims.html?ref=asia#

In the beginning the article does go into the usual routine of being automatically distrustful of what the gov't says, but then after that it focuses on the truth of the innocent victims of the mob.

thank you ,Cavazos,really nice of you :)

http://www.dwnews.com/gb/MainNews/Forums/BackStage/2008_3_28_12_35_2_90.html

达赖喇嘛对全球华人的呼吁
DWNEWS.COM-- 2008年3月29日0:35:2(京港台时间) --多维新闻

今天我首先向全球华人同胞，尤其向中华人民共和国境内的所有汉藏同胞们，表示真诚、友好的问候！同时，针对近期在西藏发生的事件，以及相关的汉藏民族关系等问题发表我的想法，以我个人的身份对大家做出一些呼吁：

这次在西藏发生的不幸事件造成许多人员的死亡是其不幸的，得知其中有少数汉人也丧生。为此，我感到分的同情和悲伤。在这，我要向所有的死难者及其家属表示沉痛的哀悼和慰问。同时也为死难者的亡灵进行做法祈祷。

这次事件不仅表明了西藏境内的紧张局势，同时也表明了通过和谈寻求实现和解的紧迫性。为了扭转目前这一情势继续恶化的局势，我已向中国领导人表达了为实现和平稳定而共同配合的意。

在这，我向汉族同胞们保证，我绝对没有分裂西藏或者是在汉藏民族间制造矛盾的图谋，相反地，我时常为寻求西藏问题在汉藏民族长久互利的基础获得解决而进行努力。正如我多次阐明的那样，我关注的是西藏民族独特的文化、语言文字以及民族特性，使之得以延续保护的问题。做为一个如法守戒的佛教比丘，我保证，我的望是真诚的，我的动是诚恳的！

今天我要呼吁中国领导人，重新审视你们对我的评，实事求是地解决存在的问题，希望能够运用智慧藏人展开有实质意义的和谈。为了促使国内实现稳定和谐，避免在民族之间制造矛盾。中国官方媒在报道这次事件时，用编造和歪曲事实真相的宣传方式，其可能引发的难於预测的果，乃至给未来的民族冲突埋下祸根等现象。对此，我感到分的焦虑。例如，为了在我和汉族同胞之间制造矛盾，中国政府不顾我一直支持北京举办奥林匹克运动会的事实，居然宣称我在破北京举办奥运会。然而，有部分汉族有识之士和学者对中国领导人的行为，以及由此可能导致未来民族关系难於逆转的恶果等现象表现出大的关注，这令人鼓舞。

藏汉两个民族自古以来毗邻而居，在两千多年的历史岁月中，我们之间曾有过联姻的亲密，也有过战争的硝烟。佛教从印度传入中国的时间早於西藏，因此，汉族被藏人视为兄长而受尊敬，在海外，我有过接的汉人，包括从大陆来的朝者大都了解这一点。这一切鼓舞着我，使我相信这将有助於藏汉人民的相互理解和信任。

在二十世纪，整个世界发生了一系列的巨变，西藏也未能例外。1949年中华人民共和国成立以，人民解放军就进入西藏，最终於1951年5月签订了“十七条协议”，尤其是我在1954年、55年间参加全国人大会议期间，认识了以毛主席为首的大多数中央领导人成为朋友。特别是在很多问题上得到毛主席的许多教导。就西藏的未来得到他本人的许多承诺。由於受到这些承诺的鼓舞，加上受当时大部分中国革命领导人的决心和激情的影响，我满期望和信心地返回了西藏。一些藏族的共产领导人也抱有相同的期望。返回拉萨，我竭尽全力地为雪域西藏在中华人民共和国大家庭中实现名副其实的民族区域自治而进行了努力，我坚信这是实现藏汉两个民族长远共同利益的最好途径。

然而令人遗憾的是，大约从1956年起，西藏局势开始动荡不安。到1959年3月10日拉萨发生和平起义，我本人也被迫流亡他国。在以的岁月诚如前世班禅喇嘛1989年1月份的讲话中指出的那样：“在西藏虽然有许多建设和发展，但同时也遭受巨大的破和镇压”；从根本而言，西藏人民处於慌惧不安之中，中国政府对藏人处在疑惧提防的状态中。即使如此，我在 1960年写的祈词中祈祷：“愚顽群能识取舍，共具慈爱友好之福泽”。其中我没有将刚刚残酷无情地镇压了西藏人民的中国政府视为敌人，而是祈祷能够化敌为友，友好相处。现在，这篇祈祷词已经成为在校学生为主的藏人每天必诵的功课。

1974年，我噶厦、议会的正、副议长经过深入思考和讨论之，决定寻求一个藏汉共同和平发展，而不需要分裂的解决途径。当时中国还处於文化大革命的动乱中，我们中国政府之间也没有任何联系管道，但我们认为，西藏问题迟早要通过和谈得到解决，西藏留在中国，至少在经济发展和现代建设方面可以受惠。因为西藏仅管有着悠久的历史和富的文明，但经济建设落。

西藏高原是亚洲诸大河流的发源地，因此，保护西藏高原的生态环境是至关重要的，我们最焦虑的是如何保护以慈悲为核心之藏传佛教文化，以及如何保护和延续西藏的语言文字和民族特性等。因此，我们非常真诚地为整个藏民族寻求名副其实的民族区域自治。关於藏族等各民族的这些权利，在中华人民共和国《宪法》中已有明规定。

1979年,当时的中国最高领导人邓小平对我的代表提出：“只要不谈独立，西藏的其他问题都可以协商解决”。由於我们已经对西藏问题在中华人民共和国宪法框架范围内寻求解决有了一个明地认识，因此，我们已做好了充分的备。其，我的代表们曾多次中华人民共和国的有关人员接。从2002 年恢接以，至今虽已进行了六轮会谈，却均无实质突破。虽然如此，正如我已多次声明的那样，我要再次重申：我对中间道路的立场没有任何的改变，继续保持接和商谈。

今年将在北京举办奥林匹克运动会，是中国人民期待已久的盛会，我从一开始就支持给予中国主办奥运的会，现在仍然坚持这一立场。中国是世界人口最多且具有悠久历史和灿烂文明的国家。随着经济的发展而且在日益凸显其大国的魄，这是值得欢迎的。但此同时为了赢得国际社会的重视和尊敬，必须要创造出透明、自由、法制、宽容和谐的社会。例如因为对天安门事件没有得到合理公正的处理，致使很多汉人遭受痛苦。当前，在一些乡村，腐败的地方部对成千上受到不公平对待的平民百姓的依法诉求要麽不予理睬，要麽取各强制手段来压制。我对这一切的感受是基於作为人类的一员，同时作为意成为中华人民共和国大家庭一员的。我认同和支持中华人民共和国主席胡锦涛先生提倡的“和谐”政策，但“和谐社会”需要言论自由，法制以及在对个人自由得到保障的基础才能产生，如果实现这一切，我坚信，包括西藏、新疆和内蒙等许多的重大问题都可以得到解决，虽然内蒙的蒙古族只内蒙古自治区总人口2400的百分之二十不到。

最近，胡锦涛先生说西藏的稳定关系到全国的稳定之讲话，我对开启一个解决西藏问题的新时代充满了期待。然而，令人遗憾的是，不论我如何诚心实意地避免汉藏分而进行努力，有些中国领导人仍继续对我进行毫无根的指责和批判。尤其是从今年三月十日以来，为发泄长期积累的怨恨和不满，在以拉萨为主的西藏三区许多地方爆发了民众自发的和平抗议示威，而中国政府则竟然马上就指责是我挑动制造了这些事件。对此，我呼吁组成具有公信力的独立调查组织，对事件进行彻底的调查，澄清事实，查明真相！

在此我要呼吁全球所有的汉族同胞们，不论你们身处何地，请关心我们两个民族间存在的问题，尽心尽力地去消除彼此间没有必要的疑虑和猜忌，为了促成和谈，在宽容、理解的基础上解决西藏问题而做出贡献。

祈世界和平安乐！

释迦比丘十四世达赖喇嘛丹增嘉措

於西元2008年3月28日

（达赖喇嘛驻美代表提供）

HA HA HA AH

DA LIAR LAMA

最近表现不好，FBI扣你工资了吧

你年纪大了，少折腾点，注意身体啊

想问一下，达赖喇嘛和法轮功这些人平时不工作，整天在街上发传单发光盘，他们靠什么生活啊？

甚至都有电视台了，难道祈祷后天上会掉金子？不知道谁这么傻养活他们啊，说真的，他们水平低到令人发指，他们雇主该考虑换些真正有用的人啦。

"最近表现不好，FBI扣你工资了吧

你年纪大了，少折腾点，注意身体啊"

"You've been misbehaving lately. Has the FBI been giving you money? You're an elderly gentlemen, so stop rocking the boat. Look after your own health instead, eh?"

I got to the China-Blog via Google Reader. I immediately subscribed to it as I thought TIME is a reputable brand.

I can't believe I am reading this kind tabloid trash here. This is below the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

先不论DALAI LAMA 本人是好是坏，在我所知的范围内，在很多藏人心中，DALAI LAMA仍然是他们的宗教领袖，精神领袖。
这也是西藏人宗教信仰的特性决定的，没办法，在西藏的宗教里DALAI LAMA就是活的佛，所以信教就肯定要崇拜他

我觉得即使国家每年支援西藏那么钱，但是我们也非常有必要了解西藏人心底的想法，而不能仅仅高高在上的审视，觉得藏人一定应该这样想。
否则，我们就与那些喜欢高高在上用一种天然的优越感审视别人的某些西方媒体或西方人别无二致了。
因为有天然的优越感，觉得自己的智慧比中国人高等，所以就想当然认为中国人肯定是这样想，肯定要这么做，如果我们发出了和他们期望的不一样的声音，做出了不一样行动，那么在他们口中我们就是被“洗脑”了，呵呵

以下是我在一位藏族作家的BLOG对DALAI LAMA公开信的留言：

感谢嘉瓦仁波切（注：这是藏人对DALAI LAMA的称呼，我用在这里表示我的友好） ，感谢嘉瓦仁波切的一声“同胞”，感谢嘉瓦仁波切的善意！
我相信这世界上的大多数人一定是善良和有同情心的，不论是什么民族
我也绝对不会因为自己是汉人就偏袒汉人，正义在哪边我就站在哪边
我恳请各位藏族朋友向普通藏人民众表达我们的普通汉人的善意，不要把暴力施加在无辜平民的身上了，他们是无辜的，不应该承受这些

为无辜死去的藏人汉人默哀

即使我仅仅是一个平凡的汉族人，即使我没有太多的话语权，但是我也一定会尽力而为

此外，发工资的似乎是CIA，呵呵
美国国会每年也给好几百万美圆呢

美国在分裂别国国土这种事上，一直特热情，特积极

"想问一下，达赖喇嘛和法轮功这些人平时不工作，整天在街上发传单发光盘，他们靠什么生活啊？

甚至都有电视台了，难道祈祷后天上会掉金子？不知道谁这么傻养活他们啊，说真的，他们水平低到令人发指，他们雇主该考虑换些真正有用的人啦。"

"I'd like to ask about something. The Dalai Lama operates just like the people in Falungong. They just keep on handing out leaflets and CD's on the streets. How do they feed themselves, eh?

They even have their own TV station! Can it be that after praying, money falls down from the sky? Gee, I wonder who is raising them. Let's be serious though. Their manner of conduct makes a person's hair stand up in anger. Their patrons should consider some more useful tools."

Please Listen to Different Voices, and Make Judgment on Your Own!
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