BBC Unblocked In China

The Chinese government blocks everything that has negative effects on itself.
I came to American two years ago and what I have learned about China during these 2 years is much more than my 16-year-experience in China.(Well, I'm 18...)
It's sad to say but Chinese people really have no idea what is going on in their own country.

in fact,i'm a chinese in mainland,but i surpport government blocked bbc\cnn and so on.
because they are liars.
if you think what i said is not true,please read this:
http://anti-cnn.com/

well, i am in beijing. There are some censorship i believe, but I actually don't have much problem accessing NY Times, TIME, Washington Post, Reuters and so on. There are some intermittent interruption at times, but it's far from total black out. Of course, one exception is google, I don't know why their news is totally blocked, maybe they have done a very poor PR job in China I guess.

Stupid little arse hole "flyer" who claims this & that. I had studied, worked & lived more than 10 years in the West but came to hate everything the west stands for. I love everything in China that I have now torn away my green card & dedicated myself to the destruction of the West. All the west's enemies will be trained & briefed by people like me & I keep counting the American GI deaths with utmost glee!

For those who think that only Big Bad China has tried to censor foreign press who the government perceives to be negatively biased, here is the big surprise:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4215199.stm

http://tojou.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-al-jazeera-english-is-blocked-in-us.html

http://www.americablog.com/2006/02/pentagon-trying-to-censor-top-us.html

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2006/11/15/jazeera-launches.html?ref=rss

Members of the Bush administration had justified the censorship because they don't want Americans to see the true Arab perspective and those bloody scenes in Iraq, which according to Rumsfeld is "inflammatory."

Readers can make their own judgement whether it is just co-incidence that the bombing of the Al-Jazeera news station, which report "negative new" on the US invasion of Iraq was just "accidental" as the American military claim.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1859614

Of course, the earlier bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade must be "accidental", I hear the patriotic Americans say, because that's what their government told them.

First I wanna declare that I just graduated from a engineering university of china and now working in a Canada Co.
In my mind,I had thought the CNN is the best media in our world. It offer news betimes、
Shortcut and candid. I have visit the access to their web site since 5 years ago. I don`t like CNN directly because the following reason:

why your English don`t explain the real fact to the world !?
whether conceal the fact and foul other is what your democracy and justice?
please enter into the tibet of our China to look for the fact and then broadcast to the word.
please respect the fact and the audience!!
When the unrest was going on, I was just in tibet province. Some terrorist burned school, banks, stores, supermarket and even kindergarten. I want to ask your American whether what they have done is terrosism? And what you will do if terrorist bomb your people?? But I sadly tell you our government is too feeble and impuissant to stop their enormity. If the north irish kill other people, what you will do? If the NORTH IRELAND want to independence, what you will do? Maybe you will kill them. But we will never!
At the last I wanna tell you a another truth. In our Tibet there is not only one religionary leader Dalai Lama.Another religionary leader Banchan is au pair as Dalai Lama.He is denouncing the terrorist again and again.
Respect the truth and you will conciliate the respect as a media!!

Anglo-Saxons may only feel that their BBC and CNN are objective while the Al-Jazeera is not only negatively biased, but outright hostile towards them. But if the Arab perspective is suppressed in the Anglo-Saxon world, can you blame China for not welcoming American journalists such as Simon Elegant who hold an anti-China bias and never tire of digging out crap from reporting on sensitive issues in the country?

Americans often think others who hold a different perspective must be "brainwashed," but in fact Americans are no less brainwashed that people from any other countries. Few Americans even know a second language, and even among those who do, many are just too arrogant to make any effort to understand other countries' culture, history or perspective. Some who have lived in foreign countries for a long time may pretend to be experts of that country but are in fact living in their own bubbles, feeling superior over the locals and never bother to learn local customs. They think the world revolves around them.

Not knowing the true Arab perspective, the American public had been fooled by their own country's propaganda to invade Iraq because they thought the Iraqis really love them. Of course it didn't help that propaganda coming out of their government said that Iraq has WMDs and Saddam was linked to Osama Bin Ladin.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JC26Ad02.html

First I wanna declare that I just graduated from a engineering university of china and now working in a Canada Co.
In my point,I had thought the CNN is the best media in our world. It offer news much better betimes、
Shortcut and candid. I have visit the access to their web site since 5 years ago. I don`t like BBC because the following reason:

why your English don`t explain the real fact to the world !?
whether conceal the fact and foul other is what your democracy and justice?
please enter into the tibet of our China to look for the fact and then broadcast to the word.
please respect the fact and the audience!!
When the unrest was going on, I was just in tibet province. Some terrorist burned school, banks, stores, supermarket and even kindergarten. I want to ask your American whether what they have done is terrosism? And what you will do if terrorist bomb your people?? But I sadly tell you our government is too feeble and impuissant to stop their enormity. If the north irish kill other people, what you will do? If the NORTH IRELAND want to independence, what you will do? Maybe you will kill them. But we will never!
At the last I wanna tell you a another truth. In our Tibet there is not only one religionary leader Dalai Lama.Another religionary leader Banchan is au pair as Dalai Lama.He is denouncing the terrorist again and again.
Respect the truth and you will conciliate the respect as a media!!

Flyer:

Indeed, lots of websites are censored here in China. Yet that does not prevent me from being able to visit Economists, New York Times, Time, BBC, CNN etc. almost every day. Where do you think I am writing this message? From your beloved America? No, I am doing it in the country which you said blocks everything.

Just now I read a message by A Singh who claimed that every pro-China message was written by CCP agent. Then I outered: "WOW, now I am working for my government. Then my American friends must be scared." Anyway, thank him for his job offer.

I don't judge you, but you don't have to go to USA to learn about China as BBC, CNN, Economists, New York Times, etc. are all accessible here. Yet the only thing you need to learn in USA is to get the truth from the wrong. I won't regard you to be brainwashed as some westerners would do to the Chinese people. And to correct you, some Chinese people know what is going on, and you don't need to act as if you were more knowledgeable than us.

It's sad to say, but you really don't know what is going on.

we chinese have 14 billion people.why you western media didn't focus on what we 14billion say :we love peace!we love tibet!

big big liars :ccn,bbc.......
all the western media includ ccn,bbc...only distort the truth,the fact and cheat all the innocent people in the world,and make war.and genocide expert white men.
what they called :human right ,only cheat the innocent people.
please.........don't be cheated by them again!

In my opinion, the objective media isn't born yet. Every media in the world twists the truth to serve its reader/government/community, the only different is the skill level.

BTW, to the people argue with flyer, why do you waste time on an immature teenager?

1. good news
2. not good enough for me
3. cctv bad, cnn good, at least for 100 years

Plus to any Chinese commenter here, PLEASE don't bring up the topic of PATRIOTISM easily. It really begins to make me wonder my definition of this word.

Flyer:
"I came to American two years ago and what I have learned about China during these 2 years is much more than my 16-year-experience in China.(Well, I'm 18...)"you said.
This only shows that the 16-year-old before you are a poor fool.

"It's sad to say but Chinese people really have no idea what is going on in their own country."
Congratulations!you are not a fool,
you are a Idiot now!

I'm from Hong Kong. I believe that Hong Kong people, other than people living in Mainland China, can see more about what is happening in our country.
From my points of view, there are several reasons for blocking some websites.

Undeniably, some news broadcasted by western newsgroups is too sensational. The educational levels of some Chinese people are too low to distinguish the right from wrong. Just like the event happening in Tibet, (first not saying that which side is right) some people are urged by someone who wants independent of Tibet. They rob...doing many illegal things. This shows that there is a need for the government to control the media.

Also, controlling some incorrect message can help stability of the whole country. China mainly control message about democracy. Western always thinks that democracy can help solve the problems in China. Please don't put western "invention" into eastern. I admit that democracy should be the ultimate goal of China's political reform, but we shouldn't go democracy immediately. It is for stability our whole country.
In fact, does western know that China (HAN, TANG Dynasty) had been the strongest power in the world for over 4000years?!!!You can search it in wiki. However, in this 4000 golden years, we was using Dynastic rule. Does democracy exactly be equal to advancement? It is the industrial revolution made western countries becomes wealthier, but not democracy.
On the other way, democracy needs social cost. It leads to worsening corruption. Just like Taiwan region, in their earlier stage of democracy, they have serious corruption problem.
Lastly, I want to say that the most important requirement for democracy in China is "Enough Knowledge of citizens". Pursuing democracy without considering country's special condition will surely need to turbulence of the whole country. Just like the “world police” US, they perform democracy in Iraq, but whether people in Iraq can have a better life?

reply to dongdong:
CNN is good?
I am doubtful.

please go this website
http://newschecker.blogspot.com/2008/03/who-lie-about-xizang-tibet-violence-and.html

I would really like if some of you read another point of view about China. Don't say they are doing the right thing, but even if it's painful sometimes we should have the whole view to get a proper opinion.

http://www.noiblau.com

Wow. This is great news. This really shows how open China is. No other country would have ever done that, allowing their own citizens to read news from a foreign country. This unprecedented and world first step by China is a great example for all other country, especially the US, to allow their own citizens to read news in other selected countries.

Someone with a brain...

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12585

March 26, 2008

Why They Hate China

Well, you have to hate someone…

by Justin Raimondo

Just because Bobby Knight retired, didn't mean the art of working the refs has passed on.

This blog has attracted this sort of comments from the beginning.

Given Ms. MacKinnon's pimping of anti cnn (and Roland's continuous trumpeting of anti-Western media views from the Chinese internet), I'd say that the English-version Beeb was unblocked to target them as the next "refs to be worked on" specifically at this point in the news cycle.

Dear Readers,

We sometimes give the US media too much credit in terms of its reach. The average American don't really care about the Tibetan riot - despite the lies told on TIME, CNN, and other media outlets. This is my rationale:

http://chinablog.typepad.com/china_blog/2008/03/us-medias-lies.html

Austin and Simon know that if their "news" is read by all of China, they had get more of the same reaction as here in this China Blog.

These talks of theirs about censorship is basically B.S.. But, it gets readers on both sides worked up. Great for business.

Mm, most of you might have read this already, but I like to link it anyway:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JC26Ad02.html

Dear Readers,

Thx to Mimi (and others) for posting that link. It is very important that everyone take that information into perspective. The US government has formally ceased those type of activities against China and we must support the normal development between China and US's governments.

http://chinablog.typepad.com/china_blog/2008/03/naughty-cia-dis.html

USA's stance on Tibet is still official recognition. Don't let extremists in the West throw you off - that's exactly what they want you to do.

To Flyer,

We don't know your true identity.

If you are true and honest, i would like to say that you should feel sad for yourself but not Chinese people.

xchaos360, it's such a great article that everyone should read, so let's post the whole thing here.

Why They Hate China
Well, you have to hate someone…
by Justin Raimondo

China's continuing crackdown on Tibetan pro-independence protesters is a big, big issue here in San Francisco. Why, just the other day, I was coming out my front door, and there was one of my neighbors – a very nice woman in her fifties, albeit an archetypal limousine liberal, typical of the breed. So typical that she might almost be mistaken for a living, breathing, walking, talking cliché. She hates George W. Bush and the neocons because she's against the (Iraq) war, but she's eager to "liberate" Darfur – and, lately, Tibet. That morning, as she earnestly informed me, she was on her way to a meeting of the Board of Supervisors (our town council) to exhort them to vote for a resolution condemning the Chinese government's actions and calling for "freedom" for Tibet. What she doesn't realize, and doesn't want to know, is that she and the neocons – the very ones who brought us the Iraq war – are united on the Tibet issue. I tried, in vain, to point this out to her, but she just shook her head, cut the conversation short, and was on her way…

As it turned out, the supervisors voted for a meaningless, toothless resolution, stripped of provocative rhetoric, much to the dismay of the far-lefties who argued for a stronger statement. The initiative for this effort was made by supervisor Chris Daly, an obnoxious left-liberal with delusions of grandeur, whose pose of self-righteousness is both grating and characteristic of his sort.

Prior to the vote on the Daly resolution, which was vociferously supported by the supposedly pacifistic supporters of the Dalai Lama, the Chinese consulate was… firebombed. This is what the War Party would like to do to China.

Fortunately, there are a number of restraining factors that get in the way: in the meantime, however, our preening politicians demagogue the China issue, and none so brazenly as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, my congressional representative, who is merely Chris Daly writ large. Traveling all the way to India, at taxpayers' expense, Madam Speaker visited with the Dalai Lama at Dharamsala and announced that if Americans don't speak out against Beijing's repression in Tibet "we have lost all moral authority to speak on behalf of human rights anywhere in the world."

Pelosi is a longtime opponent of Beijing – not just the Chinese government, but China itself. Pelosi and the unions she depends on for political support despise all things Chinese for the simple reason that China, today, is more capitalist than the U.S. – in spite of the Chinese Communist Party's ostensible commitment to Marxist ideology. Thinly veiled racist-chauvinist bilge is routinely directed at the Chinese people by union bosses and right-wing paleo-protectionists, who stupidly claim that the "chinks" (or, as John McCain would put it, the "gooks") are stealing "American jobs" – as if Americans have a hereditary right to the very best salaries on earth, a "right" that doesn't have to be earned by competitive business practices but is conferred on them by virtue of their nationality. Like hell it is.

Lucrative trade and cultural exchanges between China and California, as well as the fact that many Chinese in her congressional district have continuing ties to the mainland, have – so far – failed to deter Pelosi and her fellow Know-Nothings: politics, as they used to say during the Cultural Revolution in China, is in command.

These Sinophobic protests, engineered behind the scenes by leftist union bosses and God knows who else, are focused on the passing of the Olympic torch, which is slowly but surely making its way to Beijing, where the games are scheduled to be held Aug. 8-24. Here in the Bay Area, activists in the "Free Darfur" movement announced they were mounting demonstrations urging China to "extinguish the flames of genocide" in Darfur in San Francisco on April 9, the day the flame passes through the city.

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The hosting of the Olympic Games in Beijing is the focus of much pride in China, seen by the people as well as the ruling caste as symbolic of the nation's arrival in modernity. As such, the worldwide protests and political posturing of preening politicians – from Pelosi to Nicolas Sarkozy – are bitterly resented and have been met with increasingly shrill denunciations by the Chinese state-controlled media – a sentiment that probably understates popular resentment of Western criticism in the Chinese "street."

I know we are supposed to believe that the vast majority of the Chinese people are groaning under the weight of Commie oppression and sympathize (albeit silently) with the downtrodden Tibetans, but that is hardly the case. Indeed, the exact opposite is closer to the truth. Every time the West gets up on its high horse and lectures the Chinese government about its lack of "morality," the tide of anti-Western Chinese nationalism rises higher.

We saw this when the U.S. "accidentally" bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during Clinton's Balkan War of Aggression, and again when that American spy plane went down over Hainan island. In Beijing today, they are worried about the upcoming Olympic celebration, which will provide a platform for a wide variety of groups – including ultra-nationalist Chinese students, whose street antics have augured internal regime change in the past, and could do so again. "They are worried about a larger number of things and they are worried about keeping the lid on," according to Arnold Howitt, a management specialist who oversees crisis-management training programs for Chinese government officials at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government. The same Associated Press article cites an unnamed "consultant" to the Games, who avers:

"'Demonstrations of all kinds are a concern, including anti-American demonstrations,' said the consultant, who works for Beijing's Olympic organizers and asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to talk to the media."

Any indications that Beijing is compromising Chinese pride and honor by appeasing the West are likely to be met by demonstrations that are both anti-American and anti-government – initiated, once again, by Chinese students, who have often been the agents of political transformation. Remember the Red Guards? Mao used them to initiate his own "Cultural Revolution," but was forced to rein them in when they started talking about overthrowing the Chinese state.

The memory of that dark and chaotic era haunts China's contemporary rulers, threatening to spoil their dream of a thoroughly modernized industrial powerhouse that is both the forge and the financial capital of the world economy. The Beijing Olympics represent the entry of China onto the world stage as a first-class power, right up there with its former adversaries: the U.S., Europe, and the former Soviet Union. A Chinese nationalist cannot be faulted for seeing the organized campaign to spoil that debut as a deliberate – and unforgivable – insult.

Viewed from this perspective – the perspective, that is, of the average citizen of China – the very idea of Tibetan independence might easily be seen as a rather obvious attempt to humiliate Beijing and remind it of its "proper" (i.e., subordinate) place in the global scheme of things.

After all, what if Chinese government leaders constantly reminded the world that the American Southwest was stolen from Mexico? Imagine the Chinese and Mexican ambassadors to the U.S. demanding independence, for, say, California – or better yet, its return to Mexican sovereignty! Shall the Olympics be forever barred from Puerto Rico, which was forcibly incorporated into the U.S. "commonwealth" in the invasion of 1898?

Of course not. Yet the Americans and their international amen corner are daring to criticize China for preserving its own unity and sovereignty. It's a double standard made all the more insufferable by the self-righteous tone of the anti-China chorus, whose meistersingers are mainly concerned with celebrating their own moral purity.

Yes, Tibet was forcibly incorporated into the Communist empire of the Han, but this was just an episode in the long history of Sino-Tibetan relations – for the greater part of which the Tibetans held the upper hand. The Tibetan empire, at its height, extended from northern India to the Mongolian hinterlands and came at the expense of the conquered Chinese and Uighurs. It fell apart due to a ruinous civil war. A key factor in this complex narrative is that Mongol hegemony over China was greatly aided by the Tibetans, whose conversion of the Mongol nobility to Buddhism legitimized Mongol rule. Today, pro-Beijing historians point to this period as proof that Tibet has "always" been a part of China proper, yet the truth is that both were slaves to the Mongols – the Tibetans as their collaborators, the Chinese as their helots. (Underscoring Mongol contempt for their Chinese subjects was an edict forbidding intermarriage between Mongol and Chinese, although no such barrier to Mongol-Tibetan congress was imposed.) With Buddhism as the state religion, Tibetan priests, including the Dalai Lama, became the avatars of Mongol rule.

In short, the popular narrative of the pacifistic Buddhist Tibetans as the good guys and the Han Chinese as the bad-guy aggressors is the stuff of pure myth, pushed by union propagandists, lefty Hollywood do-gooders, and trendy sandal-wearing Western camp followers of the Dalai Lama, who has become a secularized yet "spiritual" substitute for Mother Theresa.

If the Chinese are wrong to hold on to their province of Tibet, then Lincoln was wrong to insist that the South stay in the Union – and we ought to immediately either grant the American Southwest (and California) independence, or else give it all back to the Mexicans.

The same goes for Taiwan – China's rulers are no more likely to give up their claim to that island than Lincoln was inclined to let the Confederacy hold on in, say, Key West, Fla.

China is an adolescent giant: clumsy, unused to exerting its will beyond its borders, and wracked by self-doubt. Emerging into the company of world powers, it is thin-skinned – like any adolescent – and prone to wild mood gyrations. During the 1960s and '70s, the Chinese were in a distinctly bad mood as they wrestled with the ghosts and demons unleashed by Mao. The triumph of the "modernizers" over the ultra-left Maoists in the 1980s signaled a new mood of optimism and inaugurated an era of unrivaled economic growth. The regime sanctified China's journey down the "capitalist road" by citing the reformer Deng Tsiao-ping's most famous "Communist" slogan: "To get rich is glorious!" Ayn Rand meets Chairman Mao (or, rather, Confucius) – and the result is capitalism-on-steroids.

That's why, in spite of the sclerotic Marxoid ideology that still reins in and retards the natural entrepreneurial spirit of the Chinese people, China is moving forward by leaps and bounds. That's also why comrade Pelosi and her union boss buddies have launched this odious Sinophobic hate campaign – because "their" jobs and sense of entitlement are going up in smoke. For decades, the U.S. government has preached the virtues of free enterprise and urged formerly Communist nations to adopt the free market – and now that the Chinese have taken them up on their offer, Western politicians are attacking them!

The closer China has moved toward our own system – relaxing totalitarian controls over the economy and allowing a far greater degree of ideological diversity than was possible during the Maoist era – the more hostile the U.S. government has become. Nixon went to China at the height of the Cultural Revolution, where he sat next to Madam Mao during a command performance of The Red Detachment of Women. These days, however, as China stakes its claim to a proportionate share of the world market – and Chinese investors fund the U.S. debt – the resentment and growing hostility of the Americans is all too palpable.

Why do politicians of Pelosi's ilk join hands with neoconservatives in a concerted campaign to antagonize China, and even threaten sanctions and possible military action when the occasion gives rise to the opportunity?

To begin with, China's is a success story, and there's nothing that attracts opprobrium like success, unless it's success of the wrong color – in this case, yellow. A crude racist collectivism of a specifically anti-Asian character has long been a tradition of the War Party in this country: see the anti-Japanese Dr. Seuss cartoons from the World War II era for a particularly vivid example. Yes, he was attacking the "Japs," but to Americans, it's all the same Yellow Peril. This kind of sentiment is easily invoked in America, and don't tell me Pelosi and her ideological confreres aren't aware of it – yes, even in "liberal" San Francisco, where anti-Asian sentiment is part of the city's history.

Never mind the first black president, or the first female president – what I'm waiting for is the first chief executive of Asian-American descent. I'm not, however, holding my breath…

Relations with China are cloudy, at best, and those may very well be war clouds gathering on the horizon. The reason is that Sinophobia is a point of unity between the Left and the Right: the union of the Weekly Standard and the AFL-CIO, and perhaps even the majority of my paleoconservative friends, who quail before the rising Chinese giant and see it as a potential threat on account of its sheer scale – a third of the world's population, and a land-mass that rivals our own. Surely such a stirring titan will knock us out of the way as he takes his place at the center of the world stage.

This reflects a fundamental error on the part of many conservatives, as well as liberals of the more statist persuasion. They fail to understand that there are no conflicts of interest among nations as long as their relations are governed by the market, that is by mutually beneficial trade agreements voluntarily entered into. Ludwig von Mises said it far better than I could ever manage, and I'll leave my readers to Mises' ministrations on this abstruse but important subject.

Suffice to say here that our relations with China on the economic front are a benefit to American consumers – that is, to all of us. They enable us to buy inexpensive quality products and keep the cost of living down. Protectionists who argue that "they" are "destroying American jobs" are simply arguing for higher prices – ordinarily not a very popular cause, and especially not these days.

Free trade is the economic precondition for a peaceful world and the logical corollary of a non-interventionist foreign policy. If goods don't cross borders, then armies soon will – a historical truism noted by many before me, and with good reason. Let it be a warning to all those anti-free trade, antiwar types of the Right as well as the Left – you'll soon be jumping on the War Party's bandwagon when it comes China's turn to play the role of global bogeyman. The way things are going, that day may come soon enough.

Finally, a word or two about this nonsensical demand, raised by the "Save Darfur" crowd, that China must somehow "extinguish the flames of genocide" supposedly carried out by the government of Sudan. What does China have to do with Sudan and its government? Well, you see, the Chinese have oil interests in the region, that is, they are engaged in competition with Western oil companies in opening up new fields – and, well, that just isn't permissible.

The Chinese, we are told, have a moral responsibility to either pressure the Sudanese to let up on Darfur, or else abandon their Sudanese assets. As if Sudan were a Chinese colony, and the Sudanese authorities mere sock-puppets of Beijing.

A more arrogant and self-serving argument would be hard to imagine. Presumably Western interests will fill the vacuum left by this spontaneous display of Chinese moral rectitude – and that alone should tell us everything we need to know about what's behind the "Save Darfur" bloviators and their high-horse moralizing.

If our professional do-gooders of the "progressive" persuasion are so concerned about the fate of Darfur, let them campaign for the granting of mass asylum to the survivors of this latest African catastrophe. Give them sanctuary and green cards, but keep U.S. troops out of Africa, specifically out of Darfur – and get off Beijing's back.

Like Russia, China is awakening from the long Leninist nightmare, albeit less traumatically, and with greater prospects for full recovery. However, it wouldn't take much to push it back into a revival of neo-Maoism – or worse – and a new dark age triggered by an external threat. A resurgence of Chinese ultra-nationalism in response to Western pressure – and the specter of U.S.-sponsored separatism – does not augur well for the cause of world peace. As is so often the case, we are creating the very enemies we fear, empowering and arming them ideologically. We are, in this sense, our own worst enemies.
~ Justin Raimondo

china never blocked any western news website .i have been viewed the cnn,bbc ect for many years ,without any problem! please stoping bringing shame on china.we chinese are not stupid,dont try to cheat the innocent people in the world again.

china is the friendly,hospitable,kindly,beautiful country in the world .welcome to china to testify what i say!!!

china never blocked any western news website .i have been viewed the cnn,bbc ect for many years ,without any problem! please stoping bringing shame on china.we chinese are not stupid,dont try to cheat the innocent people in the world again.

china is the friendly,hospitable,kindly,beautiful country in the world .welcome to china to testify what i say!!!

It seems that i am not be blocked.

Simon's article on Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/chinaandtibetthespincampaign;_ylt=AgeyDj2qF77JdBuvl4ryVJes0NUE

We are probably some of the "mobs of virtual vigilantes" in his mind.

yeh Mr John Smith, I guess you are encouraging the Chinese government to sent in the planes/bombers to other countries and bomb the sh*t out the TV/radion stations that disagree with them ?

Like what the yanks did to Al Jazeera ?

How wonderful, I did furbish similar thoughts see ... all great man thinks alike.

I now accept you into my brotherhood .. could you pls call yourself John "Stooge" next time you post a message ?

mimi,

even if you accept the premise that the CIA was somehow involved in the organisation of the initial protests (and I don't see that much organisation as the timeline of the protests spreading geographically seems to match the speed of the flow of information), there is no motive for the CIA to spread petty violence in Tibet. Do you see the US or EU or even the Dalai Lama saying "Hurrah for petty violence!"?

The only group that has benefited from the outburst of petty violence is the CCP. Match that with the Chinese paramilitary police standing down in Lhasa for a day to facilitate the violence and you start to wonder who is really responsible for inciting the situation to move from peaceful demonstrations in to petty violence. Look for who has motive and opportunity. And with the Indian and Nepali armies/police knocking heads on Tibetans there and keeping them away from the borders (along with the reports of armed Chinese troops stationed across the Tibet border on Nepali soil to make sure the Nepali gov't did the "right thing") and the whole issue of the CIA having the opportunity to sneak folks across the border in to Tibet looks pretty dim.

The wind had started changing:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/26/AR2008032603275.html

Dr. Michael Parenti in his article 'Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth' said:

'Until 1959, when the Dalai Lama last presided over Tibet, most of the arable land was still organized into manorial estates worked by serfs. These estates were owned by two social groups: the rich secular landlords and the rich theocratic lamas. Even a writer sympathetic to the old order allows that “a great deal of real estate belonged to the monasteries, and most of them amassed great riches.” Much of the wealth was accumulated “through active participation in trade, commerce, and money lending.” '

'The Tibetan serfs were something more than superstitious victims, blind to their own oppression. As we have seen, some ran away; others openly resisted, sometimes suffering dire consequences. In feudal Tibet, torture and mutilation--including eye gouging, the pulling out of tongues, hamstringing, and amputation--were favored punishments inflicted upon thieves, and runaway or resistant serfs. '

'

Dear pride-china,
yes, i agree with you, some weatern worry about the growing up of China. They try to resist China on many ways.

Many of you did not really understand why those racist journalists kept lying about the internet access to foreign new media from inside China.

Remember their entire argument is that the opinions of ordinary Chinese should be ignored because they had access only to government propaganda and nothing else. That is the purpose of perpertuating that lie.

If that lie is exposed, then they have to confront the inconvenient truth that their ignoring opinions of Chinese has more to do with their racism than any lame excuse they can come up.

Imagine that: A horde of Spitzer-like serious-looking pulitzer-winning white journalists caught without pants on.

i can access to these webiste through a proxy:

en.wikipedia.org

news.bbc.co.uk/chinese

some 'sensitive words' typed in google and youtube, and some Chinese-language overseas websites or variates

you may find it hard to understand, but i hate any proxies, what the f**k are they doing on my computer?

i encourage every Chinese to continuously doubt our beloved government in controlling the information flow no matter what.

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and i personally doubt the ID of these seemingly hard-core pro-China commenters here

i can access to these webiste through a proxy:

en.wikipedia.org

news.bbc.co.uk/chinese

some 'sensitive words' typed in google and youtube, and some Chinese-language overseas websites or variates

you may find it hard to understand, but i hate any proxies, what the f**k are they doing on my computer?

i encourage every Chinese to continuously doubt our beloved government in controlling the information flow no matter what.

And, yes, i believe EVERY WORD western media has to say, if you are naive to believe so.

and i personally doubt the ID of these seemingly hard-core pro-China commenters here

@An ordinary Chinese

yeah and the only Chinese who are allowed to visit this website or any other foreign websites are propagandist like you. Get a real!

To Clown:

Information flow restriction in China does exist. However, it is not as bad as western media portrayed (or chose to believe) it to be. People know what’s happening, however hard it is for you to grasp.

What's funny is the logic being use by many in the West.

When they ridicule the Chinese government for not having free press, they’ll say “with advance of Internet, cell phone, short message, cell phone video, IM, QQ, Skype….the government can not longer cover up the truth….blah blah blah”

When they want to portrait how Chinese people are ill-informed, all those means of communication just magically disappear.

Get real, will ya?!

ANTI-CENSORSHIP！！！