January 7, 2008 7:01
Enough on the Fair Tax. Let's get back to the something important like Danish tax rates
In answer to some questions about what Danish income tax rates actually are, Jacob Braestrup of the Confederation of Danish Industries offers this explanation:
The Danish top income tax bracket of 15 percent is what takes the top marginal tax to a total of 63 percent (from 49 percent - I know the difference is only 14 percentage points, but this is due to some complicated prior deductions in the tax base).The top marginal tax kicks in (2007) at annual incomes of DKK 355,700 (USD 70,400), which is a pretty low thresshold internationally. As a result, close to half the full-time employed (and more than 20 percent of all taxpayers) pay the top tax.
Even so, the revenue generated is meagre - just over 2 percent of total tax revenue. This is so, mainly because a marginal tax rate of 63 percent discourages work in favour of leisure (highly educated Danes have one of the shortest average working weeks in the world - and the fourth lowest in the EU: some 32 hours/week)! And of course because it drives talented Danes abroad.
This last point adresses your blog-response where you refer to the expensive Danish welfare state. Without getting into a more detailed argument about this, I just want to point out that the very high marginal taxes are NOT what finances the Danish public sector.
Lastly, with regards to the survey of expats, I should mention that we also asked what keep the expats from returning. Again "high Danish taxes" were the third most cited reason among the 38 percent not expecting to return to Denmark (27 percent were expecting to return; the remaining 35 percent were unsure). 67 percent of the non-returners said high taxes contributed to some or a high degree to the decision. This was beaten only by "Culture and/or physical possibilities (e.g. climate)" [that Danish weather again ;o)] and "Family-related reason (e.g. family has settled abroad)" - at 77 and 80 percent respectively.
Then came "better career opportunities abroad" (63 percent) and "spouse works / would like to work abroad" (62 percent) - and finally at 60 percent: "Denmark does not allow dual citizenship" - a thing the Danish government might actually be able to do something about (like the high taxes).
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Reader Comments (8)
A national sales tax would not work because the weathly you are, the easier it is to avoid the tax. The 'Luxury' tax on yachts during the first Bush administration should have taught you something. It all but killed an entire industry. Since many states already have a sales tax, the actual rate people would have to pay maight be as high as 40%. The incentives to get around the tax would be enormous.
Posted by Steven Dierks | January 7, 2008 9:33 AM
Even so, the revenue generated is meagre - just over 2 percent of total tax revenue. This is so, mainly because a marginal tax rate of 63 percent discourages work in favour of leisure (highly educated Danes have one of the shortest average working weeks in the world - and the fourth lowest in the EU: some 32 hours/week)! And of course because it drives talented Danes abroad.
Or, to put it another way "this is so, mainly because a marginal tax rate of 63% encourages Danes to pursue a high overall quality of life for all of its citizens, rather than the pursuit of money for its own sake by a greedy few."
In actuality, the 63% tax rate doesn't discourage "work" -- what it does is discourage wage inflation among the higher income brackets. Danish businesses look at the tax structure, and realize that its a far better use of their money to reinvest in their companies and maintain an overall high-quality workforce than give massive amounts of money to its top executives. Denmark has figured out that "top executives" is a sellers market -- that there will always be more people capable of doing a good job running businesses than there are positions for "top executives"... and "top executives" have figured out that the best way to serve stockholders is not to pay themselves huge sums of cash, but to use that money more productively.
Posted by p_lukasiak | January 7, 2008 9:33 AM
Justin, just to be clear, this guy you're quoting is a lobbyist, right? Or am I wrong in guessing that the "Confederation of Danish Industries" is a group that lobbies for various business interests including reducing top tax rates? Not that this necessarily invalidates his arguments (and in all honesty a 63% top marginal tax rate seems awfully high to me), but it seems worth clarifying.
Posted by Crust | January 7, 2008 10:17 AM
Yes, the Confederation of Danish Industries is the main business lobbying group in Denmark. It does tend to be less partisan than similar groups in the U.S., mainly because it plays such a central role in the Danish economy. And interestingly, at least one of the big private sector unions, Dansk Metal, is on the same side in this tax debate. Meanwhile, the political party generally seen as the country's most right wing, the Danish People's Party, is against tax cuts for high earners. Isn't Denmark fun?
Posted by Justin Fox | January 7, 2008 10:59 AM
Thanks for the reply Justin. I must confess my ignorance of Danish politics is near total. Sounds like fun indeed.
Posted by Crust | January 7, 2008 11:19 AM
Not that this necessarily invalidates his arguments (and in all honesty a 63% top marginal tax rate seems awfully high to me), but it seems worth clarifying.
it must be emphasized, however, that that is ALL taxes (including local, and also includes stuff like an 8% levy on income dedicated to health care.) And that local tax is quite high -- 24.5% across the board on everyone's wages.
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Justin... what is the average annual salary of members of the Dansk Metal union. And when you say they are on "the same side of the tax debate", are you saying that they want the top rate cut --- or do they want to see something like the 24.5% local rate cut?
Posted by p_lukasiak | January 7, 2008 1:54 PM
Thanks for the interesting clarification, p_luk. So Denmark has a national local tax. Sounds like an oxymoron, but I suppose it isn't. Denmark is fun.
Posted by Crust | January 7, 2008 2:03 PM
crust...
here's the Danish tax rate tables for the last three years...
http://www.skm.dk/foreign/facts_and_figures/1602.html
and here are the deductions tables...
see http://www.skm.dk/foreign/facts_and_figures/1600.html
Posted by p_lukasiak | January 7, 2008 3:51 PM