Why Do Israelis Hate the U.N.?

Just because the U.N. is in a position they don't want to be in; helping Israel, doesn't make up for their blatant hostility and bigotry towards Israel.

Doesn't Israel have a right to be angry? The UN routinely slams them on human rights (deserved or not, as the situation may be) and then hands Zimbabwe an important post, or gives Sudan a free pass on genocide. Doesn't that seem out of place? Yes the UN helps out with the Palestinians, but isn't that because the UN sees Israel as the oppressor of the Palestinians? Israel's anger is understandable; while I doubt the anti-Semitism charge, it does seem as though quite a few countries enjoy giving Israel a black eye via what should be a respected institution.

You neglected to mention:
1. The UN Assembly's infamous "Zionism is Racism" decision (nothing like stating you're impartial while slamming one side only).
2. The UN blue helmet's complicity in the attack on Israeli soldiers in Sheeba Farms(=Har Dov, or however you wish to call it) several years ago.
3. The UNRWA's funding of Hamas via the same programs you mention.
4. The UN's support for the "right of return" via the "Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People".

Really, the list can go on eternally. Why would Israel hate the UN?

You neglected to mention:
1. The UN Assembly's infamous "Zionism is Racism" decision (nothing like stating you're impartial while slamming one side only).
2. The UN blue helmet's complicity in the attack on Israeli soldiers in Sheeba Farms(=Har Dov, or however you wish to call it) several years ago.
3. The UNRWA's funding of Hamas via the same programs you mention.
4. The UN's support for the "right of return" via the "Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People".

Really, the list can go on eternally. Why would Israelies hate the UN?

Let's see, what is there to be angry about?

How about the UNGA resolution 3379 equating Zionism with Racism.

How about the blackballing of Israel from the Security Council

Perhaps the fact that the UN walked out of the Sinai in 1967 on Nasser's orders, then, after Nasser blocked the straits of Tiran and marched 100,000 Egyptian soldiers into the Sinai, called for Israel's destruction, the UN did nothing.

Or perhaps, it was the fact that at the UN Human Rights Commission convention in Durban, Africa, the ONLY nation put on the docket for human rights issues, was Israel.

Or maybe it was the fact that former Nazi, Kurt Waldheim was elected as Secretary General.

One could also look at the complicity of UNIFIL troops in Lebanon, which allowed Hizballah to murder and kidnap three Israeli citizens. Than, hide evidence of its complicity. Of course after which such actions were discovered by Israel, not only did the UN refuse to hand over evidence, which included Israeli property, to Israeli officials, a video tape of the incident, taken by UNIFIL troops, was doctored to prevent identification of Hizballah members who took part in the attack.

Of course, there is always the annual General Assembly resolutions condemning Israel, while of course ignoring any violence initiated by Arab states or Arab/Muslim NGO militias/terrorist groups.

What possibly could Israeli's be upset about?

publically the UN hates Israel...for sure...and every example above is certainly true...no need for me to reitterate them...

at the end of the day, whether they admit it or not, Israel's presence and existance in the middle east is necessary. A Saddam lead Nuclear Iraq would have been reality (thanks for selling them the equipment, France) if not for Israel.

Additionally, like it or not, Israel's very existence provides the region with more stability...and i hate to say this as a Jew, but like it or not, the Arab feelings against Israel actually unifiy and direct hatred towards Israel...but simultaneously help supress tribal infighting between religious factions...saldly aiding in stabilizing the region (at least until we, America, went in there and screwed things up again). This unified hatred helps to maintain the balance of power....add in Israel's formidible military abilities...and overall the region is far more stable since Israels inception.

Tim McGirk once again shows that he is far from a moderate journalist, and is instead postering to his liberal editors

The general membership of the UN has shown prejudice against Israel for years. Israel is always guilty of horrible things, imagined or real, while despotic regimes, who destroy their people and nations, are patted on the back.

I came to disrespect the UN, during the cold war. It seemed like little nations, most of whom had societal and governmental problems that made the lives of their people harsh, would gather together to attack the US, while praising the Soviet's attacks on their own people and other nations.

The double standards are extreme. Not sure why France should be on the security counsel, but India is denied, despite it's huge population and economic influence.

What so called Israel hates the UN simply because they have no direct control on it unlike Security Council .. they want to live untouchable..

Sounds to me as if the Jews have a crystal clear understanding of the UN. Half the members are in third world hell holes run by dictators. The UN is a joke.

i ahte the UN. They are a potentially great organization that gets nothing done.

Stop wasting the worlds money on fancy meetings and useless resolutions.

what happened to Hizbullah disarming in return for an end to the bombing?

The Un is a joke

Uh.

That was a poor blog post. It was basically one thought (Hey, Israelis should appreciate the UN!) tossed out with weak justification.

If Time is interested in hiring me to do the same, I'm sure I could at least add a few supporting arguments to my nutty assertions. I'm at gmail. Call me.

Yea seriously, Tim, why didn't you write a dissertation on the reasons the Israelis have to hate the U.N.?

How dare you relay to us an short anecdote, and conclude with mere passing thoughts?

What do you think this is, a blog?

after the withdrawal from Gaza by Israel, the UN paid for signs on the streets of Gaza Strip reading, "Today Gaza, Tomorrow the West Bank and Jerusalem." At least they are using their money wisely.

after the withdrawal from Gaza by Israel, the UN paid for signs on the streets of Gaza Strip reading, "Today Gaza, Tomorrow the West Bank and Jerusalem." At least they are using their money wisely.

Exactly Steve,(and don't think I enjoy being a minority on my views) so here are my questions for Y.K,and followers:
1- What did the other side state? I thought they gave right for foreigners to buy land and be neighbors, right?!
2- Did you say Shebaa Farms? I want go far on this one.
3- You want the Un to stop feeding the Palestineans because some use the money to fight?
4- OMG! How can you look yourself in the mirror? IT IS THEIR HOME, they have no passports!!Can you put yourself in their shoes?(You already have I know!lol)

I hate the UN too.

So Israel should be grateful to the U.N.? The same organization that equates Zionism with Racism?

At any time during the past 40 years, Israel could have laid siege to the Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank the way the Lebanese army has done to the Palestinians of Nahr al-Bared. But Israel has consistently observed a higher standard. The U.N. should remember that the next time it feels the urge to blame Israel for its lack of “restraint.”

At any time during the past 40 years, Israel could have laid siege to the Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank the way the Lebanese army has done to the Palestinians of Nahr al-Bared. But Israel has consistently observed a higher standard. The U.N. should remember that the next time it feels the urge to blame Israel for its lack of “restraint.”

re: sherif

1. You mean like the death sentence in the PA for those who sell land?

2. You're not making any argument here.

3. Strawman. They could stop giving money to terrorist affilated "charities", without stopping all activity.
Besides, it's not like those rich Gulf sheikes don't have the money to feed the Palestinians for eternity. Why should the rest of the world donate to the Arab Middle East, when they have all the money they need to fund their own developement? I can think of many worthier causes.

4. Again, you're not making any sensible argument here. Sure, you (and the UN) are entitled to your immoral opinion, but it's ridiculous to expect Israelies not to have negative feeling twoards those who advocate the destruction of their country.

It's pretty hysterical that Jews think the U.N. is anti-semitic due to it's Palestinian stance. And the Palestians are what???? NOT semites???? Too funny.

The UN would better serve the Palestinians if instead of giving them food as McGirk lauds, they taught them three things:

1. Give up terrorism
2. Stop teaching and preoccupying their children with hate.
3. how to make their own food.

"Let’s face it: many Israelis hate the UN’s presence here. They think the UN coddles the Palestinians and is anti-Semitic because dozens of human rights resolutions are raised against the Jewish state (inevitably, they are vetoed by the U.S.) , while those of far worse offenders, such as Sudan, are often ignored."

Zionism is but the modern-day knee-jerk reaction to the Holocaust and easily meets with any definition of racism. I don't know why all of you Zionists and Zionist-apologists are getting so grumpy for; you are getting over $3 billion dollar a year in aid from your big brother the US enabling you to fight against these "terrorists preoccupied with hate" (read: occupied refugees) with what the 4th largest army in the world...? And you have the cheek to moan about the UN who come in on humanitarian grounds because your lot of such animals. Any country where a war criminal like Ariel Sharon can rise to be leader is intrinsicly evil.

Y.K: are you serious?
1- When was that?After what?
2- Remember 82? Why wouldn't the UN thinkthey were up to the same plot?!
3- These Sheikhs did not kick them out of there homes!
4- It's immoral in your opinion to let elders without passports go back to their homes and famillies? What morals do you beleive in? Obviously not mine.

Every article I've read so far from Tim McGirk shows me how easy it is for biased minds to rewrite history. He minimizes Israeli concerns and conditions with callous disregard...makes me wonder if he's an Anti-Semite masquerading as a journalist. As a progressive democrat, his sort of stories really worries me: one, because it desensitizes the world to the dangers of anti-semitism and, two, because I can't help thinking that too many liberals share his misrepresented view. If I'm wrong on that latter point, please prove me wrong!

Matthew Hamilton - I urge you to visit Israel. Might clarify your thoughts on Zionism. Jews are on the front line of this struggle, not between Judaism and Islam, or Islam and Christianity, but between civilization and barbarianism. Israel as a government has certainly made mistakes, but Israel as a country stands between you and those that will do their best to destroy you if they are given a chance.

Also, Zionism existed long before the Holocaust, it is not a "knee-jerk reaction" as you falsely believe. Read "Exodus" by Leon Uris.

Bob, YK and Jacob Blues answered for me already.

You can check out Wikipedia (english) for "List of UN resolutions concerning Israel".

You could also ask the UN why Hezbollah has been rearming Lebanon under their nose and why their troops don't patrol at night.

I say: Happy 40th anniversary, Israel. Good job!

tinamarie b: Why do you hate arabs so much? I pray for Jews and all of Abraham's(PBH) descendents 10 times a day! Same as every practicing muslim, is that so barbarian? How can you compare cultures?!
You claim that all arabs have a goal to destroy the west? Where do you get that info from?
Please be more civilised and don't generalise, I find your statement very offensive.

(I submitted a message earlier, but it looks like the spam filter took offence. Well, here it is again, slightly edited:)

Well, I hoped to keep this thread about the Israel-UN relation, but it looks like we're debating the Israeli/Arab conflict. What "fun"!

re: dean pappes
The original term was "judenhass", when that became too unrespectable the anti-semites switched to "anti-semite" to obscure their own hatred: wordiq.com/definition/Anti-Semitism
Nice to see you're cooperating with them.

re: Matthew Hamilton

"Zionism is but the modern-day knee-jerk reaction to the Holocaust" - Which is why it existed at least 50 years before the Holocaust.

"you are getting over $3 billion dollar a year in aid from your big brother the US" - in tota the US provides more to Israel's enemies (3$ billion to Egypt + millions to the PA, etc.)

"Any country where a war criminal like Ariel Sharon can rise to be leader is intrinsicly evil." - So every country in the Middle East and Africa is intrinsically evil? Some anti-racist you are. (Leaving aside the characterisation of Sharon).

re: sheriff
1. meforum.org/article/370
haaretz.com/hasen/spages/843839.html

2. You really are clueless. See Jacob Blues's post to see what I'm talking about.

3. The UN didn't either. Again, I don't see why the Arab world gets so much aid, when it can fund itself quite easily.

4. My morals aren't the one when I try to make "a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacre and the Crusades" and than cry when the would-be victims defend themselves.

Tim makes a clever point by choosing to overlook the fact that UN policy has guaranteed the Palestinians perpetual refugeedom. This is done by granting them a unique definition of "refugee" and forcing the resolution of the problem entirely upon Israel and absolving the original belligerents: the entire Arab League, especially Egypt & Jordan.

The entire plot is evil and it’s disingenuous of Tim to say Israel should be grateful. (“Disgusting,” describes my feelings more accurately.)

The Israeli's should love the U.N. They have never been reprimanded for violating the 60 plus resolutions that they have violated for the past 30 plus years. They can pretty much do what they want (where the Palestinians are concerned) without suffering any sanctions or other punishment. Oh, silly me. It's not the U.N. per se, it's the U.S.

Does anybody remember the shelling of the UN posts in south lebanon in 1996 by israeli jets, which killed tens of palestinian refugees and UN troops who were seeking refuge in the post? and why does israel violate more than 60 UN resolutions? Israel should be condemned for whatever it does against palestinian civilians because it desrves it. those who are talking about ignoring sudan in the UN seem not to know that Sudan has been under economical sanctions by the US and a couple of other countries, but Israel has never been really punished, just reprimanded without any real action taken to stop its agression and human rights violations.

Sherif - I don't hate Arabs. Please read my comments more carefully. I stated that this conflict is between civilization and barbarianism, not Muslims vs. Jews.

Keep praying, and while you are at it, please encourage peace between the Abrahamic descendants too, of all persuasions. But also please know that the elements opposing peace among the Arab Muslim community appear to be speaking louder these days than those practicing and encouraging real peace and dialogue between Israel and her Arab neighbors.

"That would mean feeding over a million Palestinian refugees every day, and running schools and hospitals, jobs which the UN is doing today."

Fascinating. The number of Arabs who left the nascent State of Israel in 1948-49 was less than 370,000, and it's now 60 years later. Only because UNRWA (which has a vested interest in inflating the Palestinian refugee issue, along with their own budget) defines descendants of refugees as refugees -- historically alone among the many refugee poplulations of the world -- is the number in the millions. UNRWA repeatedly refused Israeli offers to build permanent housing for these people in Gaza and the West Bank, thus keeping them in squalid refugee camps administered by -- you guessed it -- UNRWA, most of them in Gaza. And tell me -- since Gaza is entirely under unfettered Palestinian rule, Israel having withdrawn unilaterally almost two years ago, why exactly are these people still sitting in refugee camps??

So no, we won't be even a tad grateful to the UN enablers of Palestinian maximalism and rejectionism.

One important reason why Israel would hate the UN is the fact that the UN continues to try to "talk" or "engage" Iran over it's illegal nuclear program instead of taking dramatic action, such as crushing sanctions that would bring Iran to it's knees. Israelis see this as pandering to a country which has, as it's current fundamental goal, the destruction of Israel and the massacre of all Jewish people. If the situation with Iran is not resolved in the next year, I see a massive Israeli air strike campaign targeting Iran's nuclear and military facilities.

As a South African who lived through the apartheid era I can honestly say that Israel makes the old South African apartheid government look like angels. The South African Non-White people were not attacked with F16 fighter jets, their leaders were not randomly assassinated like the Palestinian Leaders are etc etc. Ronny Kasrils is a South African Jew that fought against the apartheid government of South Africa. Hear what he has to say on this issue.

Hey, McGirk! Are you STILL to busy to testify at the Haditha hearings? C'mon check your calendar again. We'd love to see you at Pendleton!

While blaming the UN for being biased against Israel - how about just appreciating the fact that without the UN Israel wouldn't have come into existence in the first place...

If Israel would keep up to her Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel given on May 14, 1948 there would be hardly any need to criticize her. Time to grow up and take responsibility instead of putting the blame on others!

Anon (RSA): A Palestinian equivalent to Ronnie Kasrils would be on the run for his life. In any case he stands up in parliament quoting rubbish from netherworld websites and is a total embarrassment to South Africa. Not that your ANC would notice.

waihdag: If you look at the history, you'll find Israel DID appreciate the UN's Resolution 181 vote. The root of the problem is the Arab League's total rejection of it; (this was at a time when the UN actually offered the world hope for peace in the future). The UN failed to deal with the rejection finding it easier to constantly criticize the smaller side that has no oil.

Matthew Hamilton: “…the 4th largest army in the world…” I’m calling you on this. Israel has the population of Toronto and the military spending of Canada. It cannot even field the entire army without the economy coming to a standstill. Explain yourself; I’m sick of seeing this meaningless statistic plastered hither and yon.

greenmamba: I didn't refer to Resolution 181 but to the following:

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

The UN? In your article you say that the UN is substituting Israel in the West Bank and Gaza feeding, clothing and taking care of the Palestinians... Really? Then that is the reason why the Palestinians have become an ASSISTED people. They don't have to work, they don't have to do anything to improve their livelihood. All they have to do is learn JIHAD and rely on the UN for food and shelter. That is the UNRWA. The only UN organization in the world that was created for the sole purposes of taking care of the Palestinian Refugees. I believe that it was a big mistake. Look at the result nowadays. Compare the fate of the Palestinians refugees of 1948 who wre assisted all these years by the UNRWA to the Sub-Continent refugees (India/Pakistan). The refugees or (what they call) population transfer that happened when India and Pakistan were created, have been integrated in their new countries by their kinships. Matter closed. But NO! The Palestinians were kept parked in camps run b UNRWA and transformed into pawns in the hands of Dictators and other thugs. That is UN Contribution as perceived in Israel...

i think the fact that his car is not wrecked every day is simply your luck. The UN is not welcome in Israel until she becomes a neutral body, unfortunately this will never happen so rather leave Israel.
I have seen first hand the anti-Semitism of the UN, and I can assure you if I am walking down a street and see a UN car parked, I think I will either scratch or dent it in some way, it is the least I can do to show my utter disgust at this impotent organization.

That UN representative was lucky that they were in Israel! First, you're not going to find "a classical music concert" in Hamastan, and anyone who attempts to play Western music there may soon find themselves handcuffed and thrown off a high rise building; Palestinian terrorists are such creative people.

Second, if a white "international" was to be found in Hamastan, they would be summarily kidnapped, their tortured face plastered on television screens with masked men hovering nearby, pointing machine gun barrels at their heads and demanding either money or the release of their terrorist brethren abroad.

Or, perhaps this "international" would meet the same fate as the 18 year old IDF soldiers who got lost in Gaza during the 2nd Intifada, and had their organs removed and hung out the windows in front of TV cameras and cheering crowds.

From that perspective, getting your car's windows broken is not such a big deal. Maybe Tim McGirk can find time out of his apparently extraordinarily busy schedule to inquire on the fate of that BBC correspondent, who has been kidnapped by yet another Palestinian terrorist faction for what... 90 days now? Perhaps McGirk should actually visit the hellhole that the Palestinians have created for themselves in Gaza, while receiving FREE food and shelter from the UN and EU and FREE Israeli electricity, water and emergency medical care.

The fact that other countries get a "free pass" should have absolutely no bearing on how Israel treats the UN.

I have often wondered what kind of goods the Israeli's must have on our President, Senators and members of Congress. (There just has to be a photo or video somewhere of a mass orgy of dogs, donkeys and every house member featuring "unatural engagement" of some kind.) I just can't imagine why else we would continue to defend Israel in EVERY SINGLE RESOLUTION" despite in many cases being the only other country voting against. How far would one have to stretch their imagination to reach the conclusion that the US is right every time? Same rule applies in the US house and Senate. Whenever there is a bill introduced that condemns or critisizes Israel, there is never any support by members of the House or Senate, and conversly, every time a bill is introduced to increase Israeli support, there is never (bipartisanship like you cannot believe)
any resistance. This despite Israeli bombing of a building housing women and children, and the anihalation of a UN outpost killing numberous observers. We have never officially condemed Israel..wanna know why..two words..ISRAELI LOBBY!!
They make or break politicians..If any member so much as peeps a word of criticism of Israel, the machine kicks into gear and the first thing that happens is the financial support dissapears..then the media dig up some dirt, make front page news, don't give them the opportunity for rebuttal..and just like that..your political career is over (Reverse this method to CREATE a viable candidate for political office) Let's say that you think I'm just another self hating Jew..I'm going to leave you with this thought...Do you mean to tell me..given the difference in political ideology between the Democrats and the Republicans, that the only thing that they have unanimous agreement on is Israel? DO YOU REALLY BELEIVE THAT??

Tim McGirk

YOU ARE A HORRIBLE WRITER!!!

DO US ALL A FAVOR; GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN HOW TO WRITE!!!