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Rajaa Alsanea created a sensation in Saudi Arabia in 2005 when as a 23-year-old first-time novelist she published Girls of Riyadh. It was a book that broke taboos by revealing the inner lives of young Saudis and especially the Kingdom's sheltered women. Girls of Riyadh is an important book for non-Saudis as well, for it obliterates many misunderstandings about Islam and emphasizes the overwhelming role of culture in the way Saudis live their lives. Girls of Riyadh was just coming out in English translation in the U.S. and Britain when I arrived in Saudi Arabia last week. But I had to call Rajaa in Chicago, where she is attending dental school, to see how she was doing. Read the book to see for yourself, but you'll get some of the idea from my conversation with Rajaa, in which she spoke English throughout.

What inspired you to write Girls of Riyadh?

I wanted to become a writer when I grew up. When I was 18, I felt that I was ready to write something and felt I had this power to write about something that was never written before, and that’s the life of girls in Saudi Arabia, and their struggle within the restrictions of traditions and families, and their rights, and the way they try to do everything they can within what’s allowed and what’s not allowed sometimes.

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Rajaa Alsanea/Photo courtesy Penguin Press

Was it purely an act of writing?

Because I started writing the book when I was 18, my mind was changing. I started to have that criticism inside me toward Saudi society. Before, it was something like, “This is my life and I have to live it the way it is, and I don’t have to question anything around me.” Growing up I thought, “No, there are things that can be questioned. Anything that is not written by God can be questioned.” I did not question Islamic rules. Seeing how me and my friends and girls in Saudi Arabia are being treated, I felt that this has to change, and that I have to contribute to that change. I’ve heard people tell me when I used to talk about it, “You’ll never change the world.” Maybe that triggered me to actually try to change the world.

How accurate is your portrayal of Saudi Arabia and the lives of women, or at least those in what you call the “velvet society”?

Those stories of those four girls are fictional, but the things they have been through are very realistic. It is not exaggerated. What they have been through happens every day in Saudi Arabia. The way that they struggle and the way that love is considered a sin in Saudi. That’s very true. The way girls do not get the respect they need to get, like men do, is very true. The way they try to do things that are not officially allowed for them is true.

All Saudis are Muslims and all Saudis are traditional in one way or another. But some don’t really accept what is offered to them. They want more. And they want to question everything. Like me, I don’t allow anybody to tell me what do to. And I don’t want anybody to tell me how to live my life. I feel that there are things I can ask for, for instance, my right to drive, or to vote. Some girls and some families in Saudi Arabia are afraid of asking for their rights, because that’s how everybody is living their lives, and they don’t want to get into trouble, and into the struggle that I have been going through since I wrote the book.

Does the West have an accurate picture of how Saudi women live?

The West got it all wrong. All issues are being raised nowadays. There are a lot of liberals in Saudi Arabia. And there are a lot of traditional conservatives as well. We are trying to live our lives, we are trying to sort our issues between us. That book was a trial to let people to sit and talk about these matters that they were embarrassed to talk about before because they were so sensitive. Here in the States when they read something about the book, they think this Saudi girl is writing about sex before marriage, she is asking for females’ right to drink at parties, and homosexuality. They are taking the things that matter to them as Americans. They think these are rights we are fighting for in Saudi. No. The battle is so different, the stuff we are asking for in Saudi are not the stuff the American society would want. We have our own culture. We have our own traditions. We want some of these traditions.

But there are things beyond these traditions that we want to be rid of. For me, I want to change the core of Saudi society. The core in Saudi Arabia is the family, the tribe, the group. While the core outside, in the U.S. or in any other country, is the individual. The individual owns his rights in life. He chooses who to marry, what to do in life, where to work, who to be friends with, who to interact with. In Saudi, you have to have the support of people around you, you have to be part of a group to belong to Saudi society. People are not being appreciated for who they are. We are being appreciated for how our grandfathers were.

Is the novel autobiographical in any way?

No, it’s not.

Was Girls of Riyadh ever banned in Saudi Arabia?

There were imams in mosques who said this book should be banned and this girl should not be allowed to speak on behalf of Saudi women because she does not represent Saudi women who are the majority of Saudi females. There are still bookstores that are not willing to sell the book, maybe because they are against what was written in the book.

Did you write the novel for Saudi girls, or any other audience?

Honestly, no. I was trying to write it for myself. I was trying to raise the topics that mattered to me the most. After publishing the book, I was amazed and overwhelmed by the reaction that I was getting from all generations in Saudi. I had people in their 60s and 70s read book, men and women. A lot of the moms came to me saying they want me to write about their generations’ problems, they have a lot of issues they want to talk about.


The girls in the novel seem profoundly sad.

It is not just in the girls. I was trying to say even the boys have problems with traditions. Everyone in Saudi is struggling with traditions. There are people who are very, very OK with how life is. That’s what they are used to having, and any change may be frightening for them. But there are others who do not really like the lives they are living. They have to accept it because of a lot of reasons, their families, their houses, their tribes, their circles of people. That’s why those couples [in the novel], even though both of them want to have the same thing, at the end they do respect their families traditions, because without their Saudi families, there is no hope for them to survive in Saudi.

Faisal is in love and can’t act on it.

And Firas, as well. He wanted to marry Sadeem, but because of his image in Saudi society, he did not want to marry a girl who was with a man before him, with Waleed. Rashid, who married Gamrah because his family wanted him to marry her, was in love with Kari in the States. He did what his family wanted him to do, because he knew that he has to have their support to be able to survive within the Saudi society. And that at the end, he felt that choice was wrong, and that he should have stuck to what ever he wanted to have in life. All of these characters want something that their families do not actually approve. It is always a struggle between choosing or following what you want or what your family wants in Saudi. And most of the Saudis follow what their families want.

You mentioned you had to struggle with opposition to Girls of Riyadh?

I got some scary emails. That they know where I live. And know where I go to work. And that I should watch out that they will find me and they will kill me. The most painful emails were the ones attacking my family. They attacked my brothers because they are the males in the family. Living in Saudi, I know how important the male image is. My family was very, very supportive of everything I did. They were behind me all the way. They said I should not pay attention and that what I am doing is for a good cause. And that I should keep doing it.

Did you go to Chicago to escape the reaction?

No, all my brothers did their residencies in the States. They all graduated from undergraduate in Saudi and did their residency in the States. I was just following the path of the family. In my family, we are three physicians and three dentists.

It would have been far more difficult without your family’s support?

That’s true. I think that for a female to succeed in Saudi Arabia, she has no hope if there are no supportive males in her family, whether it is a father, brother, son. It is always the males in the family who support women. And if they don’t want the woman to succeed, then she will never make it.

Your late father played an important role?

He set the rules. He taught my brothers. I am the youngest in the family. They all had this respect for females raised inside them because of my father, they saw the way that my father treated my mother.

I see you are wearing the Islamic hijab, even in Chicago. Why is that?

I started wearing it about three years ago. I reached a state where I wanted to show my devotion and commitment to God. I know that I’ve always looked at it as part of my religion. I didn’t want to do it because I felt I am too young for it. I will do it when I am 50-60 years old. I wanted to look nice nowadays. But I just felt that I’m ready to do it. I wasn’t thinking of doing it because of doing interviews three years later. But now I feel that wearing the hijab gives the message to people, when they talk to me in interviews, that this hijab is not really suffocating me, it is not really putting any pressure on me. I’m still an opened minded girl. I’m still open for change and discussion. I can run an intellectual discussion with a man without being shy or feeling hesitant in any way. I am just who I am, and you shouldn’t really pay so much attention to what I am wearing in my hair or my clothes.

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How is life in Chicago?

The weather is bad (laughs). It is very cold in the winter. I miss home a lot. I can’t wait to go back. But living in Chicago is a very different experience from living in Riyadh. Being exposed to the American culture, and more than the American culture, so many different cultures, is actually good for me. It teaches me how to respect others. And it teaches me to accept differences, to deal with these differences, to enjoy life, enjoy friendships. I became more independent. I learned how to do laundry (laughs).

What is your experience of being a Muslim in America these days?

I visited the States without wearing the hijab several times before. I have to say that the way people look at me is so different from when I didn’t used to wear the hijab. Nowadays the first thing that comes to anybody’s mind when they see me is that I am Muslim. I want people to look behind this hijab. I want them to deal with me as a person, and not spend too much time thinking of what I can do as Muslim and what I can’t, if I can drink or not, or if I can have sex before marriage or not. Before, I feel that I can do anything I want, and people would not judge me based on being a Muslim. Nowadays, if I don’t smile at somebody’s face, then I’m a terrorist because I am wearing hijab and I am not smiling. People really tend to judge Muslims more than they should.

--By Scott MacLeod/Riyadh

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Reader Comments (21)

Gabistan:

jazaka’Allahu khair! i can't wait to read this book!

Yadgyu:

It is good that you are trying to bring attention to issues in Saudi Arabia. But things will not change. Awareness is not enough. People will only change when brute force is used against them. This is why Saudi Arabia is the way that it is. People know that there are consequences for their actions. The only person who can effect change in Saudi Arabia is the king. If the king does nothing to change people, then things will stay the same. Your book is not enough.

Girls of Riyadh, is only one sign of many that Saudi Arabia is changing... Slowly, at its own pace.
The history of Saudi Arabia is characterized by a continuously shifting power from the religious to the seculars and vice versa.
During the eighties and nineties power was increasingly held by the religious institution, since 2001 power is progressively taken back by the seculars. And that's the way it goes since the creation of the first Saudi state. It looks like an ebb and flow. And during each period of power shift, parts of the Saudi society are put forward. Girls of Riyadh is only one sign of the post 2001 shift of power away from the religious institution.
This is a very schematic way to describe a much more complex reality... but still it gives the idea that change in Saudi is not linear.

Gabistan:

Yadgyu.. where do you live?

sherif:

Good for you Rajaa, keep your head up girl.

Karen:

She sounds totally engaging.

My friend, Hassan, did med school in Syria and said that the two top students in his class were women -- very orthodox and modest women. I wonder how much of the restrictions are tribal and not Islamic. Are women forced into the hijab and abaya because men need them to be pristine for trading purposes even in the 21st century. I am reminded that many girls were burnt to death in a school because the men didn't let them out uncovered. This is barbaric.

I applaud any woman who discovers her value as a person and insists on it. I hope the book is a great success.

Yadgyu:

I stay in Harkeyville, Texas

Yadgyu:

This is Saudi Arabia. The best thing for non-Saudis to do is to turn a blind eye to troubles there and solve their own problems. A group of foreigners feeling sorry for the Saudis isn't going to change anything. Reading Rajaa's book isn't going to change anything. Protests and speeches and uprisings will not change anything. Just be tahnkful that you do not stay there. If you still live there and don't like it, get out of there and never, ever, ever, ever look back.

Anonymous:

I finished this book earlier this week and loved it. Yes, I learned a lot about Saudi society and all of the issues that men and women face there, learned a lot about the culture, etc, etc which I of course found fascinating. At the same time, this book also quite simply illustrates that people are people. I am a young, well-educated, well-traveled, single, professional woman in NYC (American), and we all go through the same emotions, etc - with or without the hijab, abaya...

Anyway, well done Rajaa - whether or not this book will change things it is very entertaining and at the very least may create more cultural understanding between east & west, which we surely need.

Gabistan:

yadgyu - with all due respect, i have friends from Saudi who both live there now most of the time or have just come here recently. they say that there is a liberal movement going at a nice pace that won't lead to catastrophe. i have friends from Russia who were there when gorbachov took over.. they say that he let too much happen too quickly... that he opened up the flood gates.

saying the saudis should change overnight is like saying that america should allow same-sex marriage tomorrow, should get rid of Bush today and put Nancy Pelosi in his place. over time, with the new generations growing up with globalization and globalism, they will come to a new society, comfortably and naturally... or... i guess the US could go in there and blow the whole place up in the name of democracy...

Yadgyu:

I do not dispute the fact that change is happening. But like you said, it will not happen overnight. Saudi Arabia is not only a dictatorship, but it is a highly religious country.

I think that you guys are setting Rajaa up for failure. This is what is going to happen:

1) Rajaa is going to continue to do more interviews with Western journalists.

2) She is going to slip up or be misquoted and say something that will upset the Saudi regime.

3) People are going to encourage her to be brave and give her props.

4) She will finish her degree.

5) She will go back to Saudi Arabia.

6) She will be welcomed with open arms in Saudi Arabia.

7) A week or two later, she will either be imprisoned or executed.

8) Western media will find out what happened and cause a short-lived uproar.

9) People will blog about it.

10) Life will go back to normal for non-Saudis and Saudis will face even more restrictions and oppression.

I just do not want Rajaa to be used as a pawn by the Western Media. They really do not care about her struggle. They just want a story to report. Those who truly do care will be powerless in their efforts to save her. She is a dental student and has a very bright future ahead of her. She should just focus on her schooling and not social issues in Saudi Arabia.

Don't let them use you Rajaa!!! You are smarter than that!!!

Michel:

The way things are going now in Saudi Arabia, it will take many decades before the women there gain any significant freedoms. It infuriates me but it is the unfortunate truth. Too many Saudi men still have a medieval mentality when it comes to women and their Wahabi religious doctrine only make things worst, being as it is the most rigid, backward brand of Sunni Islam in existence. Guess what: Al Qaida and the other groups allied to it all follow Wahabi teachings, teachings that the Saudi government promotes around the World with piles of money and religious propaganda. As long as the House of Saud continues to do a pact with the Devil by promoting Wahabism in exchange for the support of the Wahabi clergy for its hold on power in Saudi Arabia, things there will continue to reflect ignorance, misogyny and intolerance. The USA is supporting the Saudis only because of the oil they have, not because Saudi Arabia is the image of a democratic, just society, far from it. In a few decades, when oil will have all run out of Saudi Arabia, that country will be back to what it really is: a socially backward autocracy in the middle of a sea of sand.

Yadgyu:

"The way things are going now in Saudi Arabia, it will take many decades before the women there gain any significant freedoms."

^Very true.

"In a few decades, when oil will have all run out of Saudi Arabia, that country will be back to what it really is: a socially backward autocracy in the middle of a sea of sand."

^Thank you, Michael. You speak the truth.

People, don't let the Western media fool you. Saudi Arabia is not a place for freedom, democracy, social freedom, or liberalism.

Dania:

Good for you Rajaa!

a sidenote - Rajaa is in all likelihood a member of the Saudi elite, so her book is not banned, or ever going to be, so she has nothing to fear really. That hijab and abaya she has on does not come cheap.

job:

i think i gonna love to read ur book..hope ur book will be a success..

abdul rahman abdullah:

Assalamualaikum wr wbh,

Alhamdulillah, praise only be to Allah Azzawajalla as a mulim u withold the Islamic Principles set by your parents. No matter how ather arab males treat their women, I believe u as a muslim woman do respect the rights of your country's policy towards women in Islam.

Hey, why not come over to Malaysia and experience the moods and happenings during month of Ramadhan in villages and suburban and downtown Kula Lumpur , Ipoh and other major cities in Malaysia.

You are always welcome to enjoy Islamic Lifestyles of Malay Women of Malaysia. I'm looking forward to hear from you soon.

Maassalama.

ara

abdul rahman abdullah:

Assalamualaikum wr wbh,

Alhamdulillah, praise only be to Allah Azzawajalla as a mulim u withold the Islamic Principles set by your parents. No matter how ather arab males treat their women, I believe u as a muslim woman do respect the rights of your country's policy towards women in Islam.

Hey, why not come over to Malaysia and experience the moods and happenings during month of Ramadhan in villages and suburban and downtown Kuala Lumpur , Ipoh and other major cities in Malaysia.

You are always welcome to enjoy Islamic Lifestyles of Malay Women of Malaysia. I'm looking forward to hear from you soon.

Maassalama.

ara

Ruwaydah:

Hi Rajaa

Alhamdulilaah, I have just finished reading your book. I could not put it down, it was enjoyable to say the least. I am a South African muslim girl living in Abu Dhabi. I want to tell you that I do not think that your trials as expressed in the book is different to what other muslim girls experience elsewhere. Contrary to what many people say, your story does not depict one which is oppressive ie. many people say that the hijab is oppressive. I would like to chat with you (yeah, give me an email addie he he).

Anyway, keep the faith, keep on writing and being an inspiration to so many women who do not express their thoughts.

Ma assalaama

mukhtiar ahmed:

i want to get marry with a saudi girl

if sombody she is blind so u shud take care of her so i want to try to do somthing like thisss

HELO I AM MAN LOKING WOMAN

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