May 25, 2007 10:51
Facebook vs. MySpace: Round One, Fight!
This announcement -- the one about Facebook partnering with a bunch of other companies that are going to make widgets -- is one of those pieces of technology news that's kinda hella boring to read about, but reflects a really interesting macro-level dynamic in the evolution of Web 2.0.
I find it helpful to think about these huge Web communities as countries, each of which has to manage its foreign relations (i.e. its openness to interactions with other websites) and its domestic policy (i.e. what community members can and can't do). Both are balancing the human need for civil liberty with the countervaling need that any political state has for order. Facebook has historically been tight on policing its borders and maintaining civil order -- I think of it kinda like medieval Japan -- but with this new development it's showing signs of loosening up. MySpace is more like the U.S. right now: huge, free'n'easy and chaotic on the inside, and reasonably relaxed about its borders, with a few exceptions. (I think its history of openness is exactly the reason people freak out when MySpace does introduce restrictions, like the ones that apply to the ad-supported video site Revver.)
I figure once the real-world federal government inevitably crumbles, we'll just be left with massive online communities as our primary political affiliations. MySpace and Facebook will become distributed nation-states along the lines of Neal Stephenson's burbclaves in Snow Crash. Let the new Cold War commence.
(As a side-note, the co-founders of MySpace stopped by the Time offices last week for an off-the-record chat. They claim that 12% of all time spent on the Web is spent at MySpace. Yeesh.)
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But ninety percent of that time is waiting for the damn pages to load and the little music player to connect and start streaming a song that you don't want to hear but can't pre-emptively stop so you have to wait until it starts playing which can take a couple minutes depending upon how many excruciatingly bad graphics the user managed to cram through Joe Blow's Myspace Editor so you just stare at the thing and wish you could skip the site entirely but you can't because the guy you're trying to get hold of is in a band and feels compelled to maintain an active presence on myspace and what the hell is this other music player that must be some kind of an add-on because you really need a second fraking music player on your damn page and that just about does it I swear I'm about this close to changing my default picture to the goatse guy and putting my name and password up on alt.spam.spam.spam.
Oh, it's loaded. "Saw you got a mention on boingboing. Congrats." *send*
Posted by ChurchHatesTucker | May 25, 2007 1:33 PM
The division among the communities is striking. Though, I think we will see a bit of a change in the coming future. The sites seems to be headed in different directions, offering different services for users.
I have noticed that the atmosphere on Facebook has changed now that it is open to the general public. We are constantly inundated with Feeds of what everyone is doing every second they are on the site. This can be irritating to most and a little invasive.
I hope that MySpace is able to stay away from any more clutter than is necessary to keep the site running, the better off we will all be.
Posted by Letia Charlyce | May 25, 2007 3:09 PM
I was one of the first group of users for Facebook (i.e., I went to one of the first 10 or so colleges it was used for), and frankly, over the past 4 years I've been using Facebook less and less. Opening up to the general public was a really bad idea that angered a lot of Facebook users, and that and other 'improvements' are just making it into a bad imitation of MySpace.
I suppose this makes me a bit of a technophobe or progress-phobe, but honestly, I wish Facebook would realize that there are plenty of people out there who aren't drawn to the free-for-all of MySpace and would like a different kind of networking site. Too bad they didn't listen to the thousands of us who signed petitions against opening to the general public, or those of us who've been pestering them to remove that godawful news feed.
Posted by Megan | May 25, 2007 4:30 PM
Facebook is simply awesome! really intelligent networking! I found my friends and many more acquiantances all over the world with only a couple of clicks! It helps maintain my high school's alumni network because many of our students go to the US to study, so it helps to keep as all in touch.
The "tag" feature in photos is simply ingenious! I love the fact that albums are created along with other people and we never forget our friends abroad!
I also like the "status" feature although I find it a little intrusive that people can look freely on my "Wall" and peep into my discussions with others.
Other than that, I have to say that I am a new Facebook-er so I don't know how it was like in the past when it wasn't open to the public.
MySpace is irritating for the aforementioned reasons. It don't understand how its creators made the "Fortune" cover some months ago. Their site is not so good...
Posted by johnlegbelos | May 26, 2007 7:03 AM
facebook is for fascists, long live Democracy and Myspace
Posted by jmelees | May 26, 2007 6:43 PM
^ no comments
Posted by johnlegbelos | May 28, 2007 7:58 PM
http://www.livejournal.com/
How about that particular friend/networking/fandom aggregate site? I've never had a myspace and don't intend to get one. (Of course right now LJ is involved in a huge imbroglio over...oh frack. Go read and find out for yourself. It's right up the 'web communities as countries' analogy alley)
P.S. Enjoy your Vacation!
Posted by C. Brown | May 31, 2007 7:55 AM