April 2, 2007 1:06
Re: Bush Agonistes
Like Jay, I was struck by the sense of remorse -- and responsibility -- that permeated Dowd's interview, as well as by its apparently spontaneous nature. (A PR person I know asked after she heard the news: "Does he have a book coming out?" He doesn't.)
But what looks like genuine regret to some can be spun as irrational emotionalism by others. Reporters say that the White House has been quietly implying that Dowd's turnaround stems from "personal problems." For his part, Dan Bartlett says
I only pointed out what Matthew told Jim [Rutenberg, the Timesman who snagged the talk)] in the story... That it's been a long personal journey for him over the last several years. His family life [in the last few years, he's lost a twin daughter and has been divorced] and the decision of his son to enlist [an Arabic specialist who will likely be sent to Iraq] has impacted his thinking... You won't find one negative comment from any of us who know him.
Tone is one way to distinguish between expressions of sympathy and the subtle implication that someone is acting out of emotion rather than reason. (I believe the latter, Karen, is a form of "concern trolling.") I couldn't get Bartlett on the phone about this -- or to say anything more -- so maybe his emphasis on personal nature of Dowd's decision was not intended as anything besides an acknowledgement of his friend's recent struggles. Two things bear mentioning: First, evincing concern and implying irrationality are not at all mutually exclusive; politically, I tend to think the White House would like to have it both ways. Second, anyone who didn't reconsider his politics after going through what Dowd has would be a cold man indeed -- or the Vice President. And, you know, it shouldn't take that much to change your mind about this administration or the war. For a growing majority of the American public, it hasn't.
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Reader Comments (39)
Maybe you could ask Bartlett his opinion on this meta-question:
"Do you believe emotional reactions to traumatic events are irrational, and that women tend to be emotional, and that people who feel these hysterical womanly emotions are therefore irrational and inferior human beings?"
I just want to see if he'd admit to that subtext.
Posted by Enceladus | April 2, 2007 1:13 PM
Michael Ware is an "...an alchoholic" and Matthew Dowd "...is suffering from personal problems."
When they can't defend the message, attack the messenger.
Will some day the media call this administration on their smearing of any and all critics? Just ask, "Do you have any proof of that charge?"
Posted by not the senator | April 2, 2007 1:26 PM
As has been pointed out Dowd is a little late. But certainly more will follow.
When I was growing up in the post Watergate 70's the joke was that you couldn't find anyone who voted for Nixon against Kennedy (one of the closest races in history) I expect as time goes on we will see the same with regard to 2000 and 2004.
Posted by Paul, no not that one | April 2, 2007 1:27 PM
Hey, Ana glad to hear from ya'.
Dan Bartlett, like so many of the other WH droids and who appears to be a victim of the body snatchers, seems to have one redeeming characteristic. He is available to the MSM.
I am waiting for Dan to get caught like Orrin Hatch did on Meet the Press yesterday. Ole, Big Russ, Jr. appeared to be trying to regain some credibility. Good on him.
Posted by linda | April 2, 2007 1:30 PM
I'd be feeling remorse too, knowing that, as well as drinking the Kool Aid I'd had helped make it.
I'd to think that there was an epidemic of remorse going among the enablers of the Bush regime, sadly doesn't seem so.
jt
Posted by JT | April 2, 2007 1:31 PM
"I couldn't get Bartlett on the phone about this -- or to say anything more -- so maybe his emphasis on personal nature of Dowd's decision was not intended as anything besides an acknowledgement of his friend's recent struggles."
Or, maybe, the White House successfully got its meme established and is happy to see that every Matthew Dowd story must now contain at least two to three paragraphs of meta about their charges.
Thats how they play the media. You push until the reporter start reporting the "controversy" then you back off and let the reporter carry your message to the masses: "Matthew Dowd said what he said because he's unbalanced for whatever reason. Its sad really... when people get a little (Bushie twirls finger in circle by his or her ear)"
If somebody says something jarring about you that isn't true to get people whispering to discredit you, would you prefer that people in your position:
A. spend lots of ink 'reporting the "controversy"'
or
B. would you prefer those untruths be fairly quickly investigated (and if pulled out of the sky and untrue) shot down so the focus could be returned to the actual story that provoked your being slimed in the first place?
George W. Bush has been president for a while now, how they do business is no state secret, and yet they always manage to pull this kind of thing off.
The benefit of the doubt where none is merited changes the dialog.
About faith-based Bush supporter turned critic David Kuo. Now about Matthew Dowd.
Posted by Cynical Bostonian | April 2, 2007 1:33 PM
"Second, anyone who didn't reconsider his politics after going through what Dowd has would be a cold man indeed -- or the Vice President. "
That's funnay right there, I don't care who ya are.
Posted by Jake Gittes | April 2, 2007 1:35 PM
everyone's words have to be weighed in context, Dan Bartlett also said yesterday that the cause of diplomacy is not advanced by talking to hostile governments.
As one of the dirtiest and shrillest of the Shrill DFH's likes to say:
The Stupid! It burns!
Posted by Jim | April 2, 2007 1:39 PM
And, the last one to fall will be "Him." I can see the Time story now, first week of April, 2009:
"In poring through my notes of meetings and interviews for this story, it was striking how many of Bush's notable business and political supporters were 'truly and deeply concerned' about his volatile imbalances and decision-making--but were 'afraid to say anything.'"
But we'll have to wait for that. Wouldn't be proper otherwise.
Posted by fouro | April 2, 2007 2:05 PM
Gah - lopped off a bit when adding quotes: " --but were 'afraid to say anything for the sake of the country.'"
Posted by fouro | April 2, 2007 2:11 PM
As far as acting out of emotion rather than reason is concerned:
Who does this more than Our Little Princeling? I know he refers to his emotions as his "instinct" and his "gut", because that's ever so manly and Gary Cooperish, but we're at war because the Tantrum-in-Chief couldn't catch Osama and wanted to prove something to his Daddy. According to a new bio, Rummy got the Pentagon because he knew of, and how to play on, Junior's hostile resentment toward Poppy, which Rummy shared.
/siderant
Posted by Jim | April 2, 2007 2:34 PM
Just another example in a long list proving the principle that if you get mixed up with the Bushies, you leave with your reputation in tatters.
Posted by mikeg | April 2, 2007 3:02 PM
Dan Bartlett's line in the NY Times article on Dowd's break:
"Even people that supported the president aren’t immune from having their own feelings and emotions."
This is not "concern" by any stretch. It's the age-old line, dear to the GOP, that only Others are subject to emotions. Notice the implicit suggestion that most of the time, people who support the president do not, in fact, have "their own feelings and emotions." And obviously, the notion that they could have their own thoughts is totally out of the question.
Posted by Acid Jones | April 2, 2007 3:06 PM
The absurdity of Matthew Dowd's expressions of remorse are matched only by the absurdity of the news that the Democrats, feeling emboldened, will now oppose warranteless wiretaps and the suspension of habeus corpus.
Matthew Dowd: "Then it hit me: Tearing the country asunder to horde political power was wrong. It seemed so obvious. Why had I not thought of this before?"
Democrats: "Then we realized that we're *for* civil rights. We're *for" habeus corpus. Why not stand up for them? It was a bold gamble, but something told us that, as sworn representatives of the people, this was what we'd been sent to Congress to do."
Posted by Sean Carman | April 2, 2007 4:23 PM
Fouro is absolutely right. As soon as Bush leaves office the insiders will be falling all over themselves to reveal the absurdity of this Adminstration. But, of course, they can't say anything while it would do anybody any good because it might hurt their career prospects somewhere down the road . . .
Posted by Greg VA | April 2, 2007 5:09 PM
I suspect Matt Dowd has a book to sell. That's the only reason anyone criticizes this administration.
Posted by TomT | April 2, 2007 5:26 PM
Any truth to the rumor that Barney has signed with an agent and is shopping a book proposal? Because it seems to me that we're getting very close to "Laura and Barney" as the hold outs still supporting W. I'm betting they'll break, too.
At least Dowd feels remorse for his role as an enabler of a war criminal. Strange that this should make him a target of the ones who campaigned as the champions of personal responsibility. Or rather, not so strange at all.
Posted by Paul in Brooklyn | April 2, 2007 6:00 PM
As a group that specializes in appeals to emotion, for example, using fear as a substitute for rational argument, it is ironic that Bartlett would select emotion as a prop in yet another character assassination.
I'm never disappointed when someone experiences bouts of insight into reality, so I welcome Dowd's Damascus moment.
The degree to which the Right remains relatively unchallenged for their substitution of logical fallacy in place of proper reasoning continues to puzzle me. I imagine they just keep on doing it because they are not typically challenged on their improper logic. There is no need to point out that their argument against Dowd is yet another example of fallacious logic because that doesnt seem to matter.
Posted by Derek | April 2, 2007 8:11 PM
Even us serfs out here in the provinces could see what mendacious and evil little men Bush and Cheney are; furthermore, we figured it out years ago.
Matthew Dowd had a front-row seat; he knows 100 times more about the inner workings of the BushCo administration than any of us peasants do, yet it took him six years to see the light?
Oy...............
Posted by global yokel | April 2, 2007 8:29 PM
Yes it only took him 6 years to confess to the media's mommy, the front page of the gray lady.
Make that 10 Hail Marys, 3 Acts of Contrition and 5 Our Fathers for Dowd, stat.
I immediately thought during the article when are they getting to the part that he has cancer or did his wife just leave him? Where is a WH aide when you really need her?
Is this just the beginning? Will Harriet Miers be confessing her sins as well? Maybe there should be a former Bushies confessing pool.
Posted by Todd | April 2, 2007 8:30 PM
I think it's rather apparent that the life events that Dowd has endured has given him the freedom to see reality more clearly, free of any political taint.
Posted by Rich | April 2, 2007 10:28 PM
"Is this just the beginning? Will Harriet Miers be confessing her sins as well? Maybe there should be a former Bushies confessing pool."
Given the sense of responsibility that permeates their beings I suspect all of them to repent. They're all such decent people. You can't see that, you angry bloggers who see everything in black and white, in red and blue -- but Washington elites are invariably good, decent people. They may whore themselves as lobbyists, engage in shameless political deathbed conversions, and lie to Congressional committees and federal prosecutors, but they're good people, better than you'll ever be.
Just remember that.
Posted by TomT | April 2, 2007 10:28 PM
After tirelessly working to put a man in power who has divided our country, trashed our freedom, subverted the rule of law, and destroyed our reputation, Dowd now says "oops, sorry."
Sorry, Bub, but that just won't do. Tell it to the firing squad after your conviction for treason, traitor.
Posted by Patrick | April 2, 2007 11:25 PM
I'm having a hard time imagining a personality who leaps from Clinton to Bush, rides the Bush train until 2007, and then has some sort of crisis of faith. Dowd looks supsiciously like a rat stepping calmly off a sinking ship during political campaign season to me.
Bush is done in politics, why would he stay? Since Bush is unpopular, why would he say good things about him?
Posted by greyguy3 | April 3, 2007 9:48 AM
Ana,
I sounded off on Dowd over on Jay's blog regarding this topic, but I just found a wonderful take down of Dowd by James Moore, co-author of _Bush's Brain_. He unloads on Dowd and considers him to be "More Craven Than Karl," which astounded even me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-moore/more-craven-than-karl_b_44741.html
............................
"Dowd's attempt to portray himself as a victim of a betrayal is nonsense. He knew as well as anyone who Karl Rove and George Bush were and what was driving their vision and bipartisan cooperation was not a part of the tapestry of the tragic they were about to weave. Bush had things to prove to his father. Rove wanted political power. McKinnon wanted money and fame. And Dowd was central to all of their goals. Dowd was Rove's chief lieutenant, in fact his only one, who helped Bush's Brain exploit polarization of the country for political gain. Dowd's insight was crucial in red flagging the shrinking group of independent voters and he helped create and then sharpen the wedges that Rove used to divide both the electorate and the country. Dowd is second only to Rove as a master technician pouring a poison into our democratic process."
..........................
"They [Dowd and Mark McKinnon ]have done too much harm to expect our forgiveness."
Ana, please read Moore's essay and see if he convinces you. Let us know your thoughts afterwards, please.
Posted by ama | April 3, 2007 11:05 AM
Speaking of personal issues, shouldn't we have been worried during the 2000 Election that a candidate was a recoverde alcoholic who had played around with cocaine before Jesus fixed his heart and had some serious Daddy issues and who had been bailed out of every business fiasco he had bungled and who had been taken care of during the hot times of Vietnam? Maybe because the world was a relatively peaceful & prosperous place for the 8 years leading up to that election it didn't seem that important to question the "character" issues involving George W.
Posted by sonny c. | April 3, 2007 12:27 PM
Oh please. Dowd has his "Road to Damascus" moment NOW?? Personal crises aside, that's like Goebbles flashing on the fact that things are getting flaky because the sound of russian artillery is beginning to drift over from the Berlin suburbs.
And, Dowd, spare us the “I do feel a calling of trying to re-establish a level of gentleness in the world...” drivel until you start to tell what you know. You were there, you saw how they operated, it's time for you to help provide the facts that will help stop these thugs and hustlers.
Until you start actively working to help undo what you and your former crew have done, screw you and your mewling pleas for absolution. I, for one, am not buying it.
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ماسنجر بلس الا صلاتي هواتف المشايخ اكس بي محرر النصوص برنامج الماسنجر العاب كمبيوتر استرجاع الملفات المحذوفة تسريع الكمبيوتر برنامج وين رار برنامج وين زيب ويندوز فيستا سرعة الكمبيوتر ماسنجر لايف بروكسي بتسريع الاتصال تسريع الانترنت تسريع التحميل سكاي بي فتح القنوات المشفرة متصفح فايرفوكس تحميل من يوتيوب التورنت تحميل ملفات تحميل الافلام تسريع التحميل مكافح الفيروسات انتي فايروس كاسبر الحماية كاسبر سكاي انتي فايروس ازالة ملفات التجسس ميديا بلير الجديد ام بي ثري تغيير الصوت mp3 برنامج الاستديو تحويل الملفات نوكيا 3250 نوكيا 6630 نوكيا 7610 نوكيا n70 n73 فوتوشوب عربي الفوتوشوب الثامن الفوتوشوب السابع ثيمات n95 نوكيا n81 برنامج القران قوقل ارث تسجيل المكالمات ماسنجر الجوال الجاسوسات مكياج بنات لعبة مكياج سندريلا قص الشعر تلبيس باربي لعبة تلوين لعبة الطبخ لعبة القتال سباق السيارات لعبة ميك اب لعبة سوليتير من سيربح المليون لعبة وزنك ذهب طائرة حربية بيل جيتس الشيخ محمد حسان محمد العريفي المنشد سامي يوسف اناشيد اسلامية برنامج خواطر شاب دعاء ختمة القران عائض القرني برجس برنامج 99 فتاة القطيف هشام الراشد صدام مستر بين مواقف مضحكة خالد عبدالرحمن فلم سعودي فضائح شاعر المليون ناصر القصبي عبدالناصر درويش مسلسل ابله نورة مسلسل مصدق نفسه مسلسل اسوار 2 مزنة اند فاملي مسلسل اولاد القيمرية مسلسل مناحي مسلسل الاصيل مسلسل البارونات البيوت اسرار مسلسل التنديل مسلسل الداية مسلسل الفريج مسلسل الفطين مسلسل اخواني اخواتي مسلسل بيوت من ورق مسلسل اهل الراية مسلسل بيني وبينك مسلسل بعد الفراق مسلسل جمال الروح مسلسل حاير طاير مسلسل جاري ياحمودة مسلسل راس غليص مسلسل شبابيك مسلسل صج محظوظ مسلسل شر النفوس مسلسل صراع على الرمال مسلسل سنوات الضياع مسلسل ظل الياسمين مسلسل عيون من زجاج مسلسل عيون الحب مسلسل غشمشم 3 مسلسل عقاب مسلسل هوب تاكسي مسلسل نمر بن عدوان مسلسل شاءت الاقدار مسلسل نور نور الحلقة الاخيرة مسلسل نقش الحنة مسلسل طاش ماطاش17 مسلسل كلنا عيال قرية مسلسلات 2009 مسلسلات اجنبية مسلسلات تركية مسلسلات خليجية مسلسلات رمضان مسلسلات سورية مسلسل مسك وعنبر اغاني مسلسلات باب الحارة الجزء الثالث عادل امام ماركو سندباد الجاسوسات يوجي فله هابي تري خليل الشبرمي شاعر المليون 3 عامر بن عمر ناصر الفراعنه هداف القحطاني تفحيط ابو كاب استعراض تفحيط جدة هجولة حوادث تفحيط تفحيط كامري 2009 شباب الرياض تفحيط بوبو
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