Falwell, R.I.P.

Ana, time to really celebrate.

Go get another abortion.

Actually, the first politicization of his death was by the guy filling in for Rush who couldn't wait to bas the "loony liberal left" for something they haven't even done.

Just another grab for a 'hot button' issue. The 'movement' is suffering from splintering and loss of political clout. Let the Religionist and the Right fight over this out of sight.

"Actually, the first politicization of his death was by the guy filling in for Rush who couldn't wait to bas the "loony liberal left" for something they haven't even done."

Bingo.

Condolences to your integrity...

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

God is a Republican,

Other Fallwell quotes:

"Jesus [was the] first American"

"I do question the sincerity of people like the Reverend Martin Luther King..."

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals."

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this [9/11] happen.'"

"Labor unions should study and read the Bible instead of asking for more money. When people get right with God, they are better workers."

"I hope to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we don't have public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them."

How about some condolences for the many lives he negatively affected?

RIP. Snort.

I don't think hell is too peaceful.

He knew abortion IS murder.

That always did bug the libs, and still does thankfully.

You will be missed by all moral Americans, Rev.

God bless you, and your good work for our great and glorious free nation.

Falwell did more to promote true peace and actual freedom than MLK, JFK, LBJ, and RFK combined.

FACT.

I'm sure the obituaries will be as pleasant, and as vague and eye-averted, about Falwell's "accomplishments" in American life as those of Bill Rehnquist.

I'll remember Jerry well...for helping normalize the Moonies and otherwise removing the barriers to all kinds of occultism (religious, political, etc.) in the country, creating a new respectability for pseudoscience. For his fervent stands on agrarian fertility cultism, aka 'pro-life' politics. For all the bumper stickers of the early Eighties that took great joy in accurately proclaiming "The Moral Majority is Neither". For giving us Monica Goodling as the shining exemplar of Christian Education. For his deep obedience and allegiance to the Law Of Love, and a life led according to the principles of the Sermon On The Mount....

I'll wait to uncork the champagne on the demise of the 'Christian' Right until Pat Robertson and D. James Kennedy have followed Jerry to the Great Golf Clubhouse In The Sky, though. Bottoms up, guys!!!

One down, 28% to go.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. You could see he was a man of the flesh, not of the spirit, just by looking at his jowls.

Posted by MoveOn2France
May 15, 2007
Falwell did more to promote true peace and actual freedom than MLK, JFK, LBJ, and RFK combined.

FACT.
*********
Factually flawed!

Falwell Is Dead
15 May 2007 02:13 pm

Since I can think of nothing good to say about him, I'll say nothing. And pray for the repose of his soul.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/05/falwell_is_dead.html

Andrew Sullivan

Falwell was a Christian in name only, like all those faux Christian war mongers on the right.

"Condolences to the many whose lives he touched..."

Amen to that, but not in the way you meant.

I hope that the obituaries include a detailed look at the empire Falwell built. This would be an excellent time to show people exactly who the Moral Majority are and what they hope to do. The truth will scare them back to reality.

"...For his fervent stands on agrarian fertility cultism..."

And they wonder why Fancy Leftosi's loons in Congress have a lower approval rating than BUSH.

Keep them diatribes a-comin, libtards!

"One hopes he finds that his God is a more forgiving being than he believed."

http://atrios.blogspot.com/

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow. Self-righteous moralizing busybody is too kind an epitaph. At least he got along with Larry Flynt.

I hope he's found his just reward in the next world he loved so much; but I'm damn glad he's finally out of mine.

Robertson doesn't look like he's too far behind...

For the man made his fame and fortune promising salvation for a donation over the teevee...

"Salvation brings a badge to wear
On the glad rags of your soul
Just keep up with the payments
and we'll make your misery whole
We've got albums of redemption and confessions on cassettes
All on easy hire from the following address
All on easy hire from the following address

Blazing Apostles, Flat 99, South Revelation Row
City of Lost Souls, Land of the Blind
It's a wonderful place to go...
A wonderful place to go..."

http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/song/566488.html

Posted by MoveOn2France
May 15, 2007

Falwell did more to promote true peace and actual freedom than MLK, JFK, LBJ, and RFK combined.
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God is Pro-War

by Jerry Falwell

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36859

Yeah, right.

Try reading the Sermon on the Mount sometime to get an idea of what Christ actually taught.

Falwell was not a Christian.

Why shouldn't Falwell's death be politicized? He was a political activist. When Jesse Jackson dies, it would be ridiculous to insist that no one criticize him on that day, or discuss the state of the movement he led.

September 2001: Falwell blames Americans for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. “The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10806.html

Can you feel the Christian love?

Jesus?

Likely a limp democrat.

God?

Definitely a REPUBLICAN.

As so it goes.

Progress.

Posted by MoveOn2France
May 15, 2007
Jesus?

Likely a limp democrat.

God?

Definitely a REPUBLICAN.
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The problem is that Falwell and his followers call themselves 'Christians', which means they are followers of Jesus and his teachings.

And as you note, Christ was clearly a liberal. The Sermon on the Mount is about as liberal on the issue of social justice as you can get.

As for McCain, his campaign's debate advisor is on loan from Falwell's debate team at Liberty.

More here: www.debatescoop.org

Some of the "amazing things" I recall Falwell having said:

I'm doing from my foggy memory, so these are inexact.

1. Falwell blamed America for 9/11, saying we had turned our back on God.
[This to me was the epitome of arrogance, for what man in his right mind could claim to know the intentions of God?]

2. On CNN (I think), Falwell told Barry Lynn, who claims to be a Christian and advocates for the separation of church and state, that Lynn was NOT a Christian.
[I wondered what ever happened to that part of the Bible that used to say, "Judge not, lest ye be judged."]

3. Falwell gave God credit for Katrina blaming the way the people in New Orleans lived for God's retribution.
[Same as #1.]

4. Prior to the 2004 Republican National Convention, much ado was made about the radical right wingers NOT getting speaking parts at the convention. Falwell, on CNN (I think), said that Karl Rove was a masterful politician or analyst or some such and that he (Falwell) would follow him over a cliff. Falwell said it did NOT matter to him if he and the other Evangelicals were back benched.
[I thought Christians might be willing to follow Christ over a cliff, but to hear a person who called himself a Christian say he was willing to follow Rove, knowing full well the dirty tactics of Rove, was unfathomable to me.]

My only hope is that Falwell is NOT kin to me since one of my great grandmothers was born in Lynchburg, Virginia prior to the Civil War. To discover such a thing would break my heart. :)

Does this mean that Tinky Winky can come out of hiding?

All I can hope is that right about now, he's facing Vishnu telling him he's slated to come back as an hiv-positive gay african jew.

The true Christians know that Jesus Christ practiced tolerance, love and forgiveness above all else. I mean come on, JC hanged out with thieves, prostitutes, and lepars. He hanged out with 12 guys. Can you get any gayer than that?

For a man who preached his morality of bigotry and hatred, I forgive Falwell for his lack of compassion and his quick judgment against those who disagreed with his views. Somehow, it is comforting to know that Hitler is in hell saying, "Oh crap, now I have to put with this guy?"

"For giving us Monica Goodling as the shining exemplar of Christian Education."

I think Pat Robertson is the one responsible for all those pseudo lawyers having to retake their bar exams. Regent University/College is a Robertson creation, but you might be right in giving partial credit to Falwell, who founded Liberty University/College.

I take it his death means God is punishing him for the life he's lead?

Thou shall not bear false witness.

http://commonsense.ourfuture.org/falwell

MoveOn2France:
"Jesus?

Likely a limp democrat.

God?

Definitely a REPUBLICAN.

As so it goes."

So, unless you deny the divinity of Jesus and monotheism (which is cool with me), doesn't this mean God is both likely a Democrat and definitely a Republican? The original undecided voter, kinda?

On the other hand, maybe yet another theological nicety has just sailed over my head.

PS I think you might be a parody, in which case, cheers.

"Falwell did more to promote true peace and actual freedom than MLK, JFK, LBJ, and RFK combined. FACT."

At first, I doubted whether that sentence was true, given all I know about the accomplishments of Presidents Kennedy and Johnson and the work of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

But then you wrote "FACT" at the end. Now I'm convinced.

I have to laugh at the liberal tendency to talk about what "true Christians" do.

I thought liberals hated people who try to judge whether or not someone is a "true Christian". Apparently, they really don't care, they just want to demonize anyone who does not share their narrow and intolerant view of the world.

Woah, this blog really makes me sit up and take notice what liberals are all about.

Hatred, intolerance (Isn't "tolerance" the mantra of the season with you?), and venom. You can tolerate anyone who believed your way. What about those that don't???

Nice.

Take a good look in the mirror folks. Whether you agree(d) with Fallwell is not the point. Your unvarnished hatrid of him reveals more about you than him. Far more.

Posted by Mike
May 15, 2007
I have to laugh at the liberal tendency to talk about what "true Christians" do.
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True Christians follow the teachings of Christ. You shall know them by their deeds, correct?

Falwell wrote "God is Pro-War" Christ stated 'Blessed are the Peacemakers". Falwell was behaving completely contrary to the teachings of Christ, hence he can hardly be called a Christian.

Worshipping a god that is pro-war is morally akin to worshipping a god who demands human sacrifice.

Mike:

Actually, what I really think it is, is that in the Gospels Jesus says lots and lots of really specific things about what he expects his followers to do and how he expects them to conduct themselves. Anyone can go and read the Gospels. This means that, whenever people who profess to be followers of Jesus do things or say things, anyone can compare their words or actions to what Jesus says in the Gospels his followers should do. If there is a discrepancy between what Jesus says in the Gospels and what his followers actually do now, his followers are really, really vulnerable to being charged with hypocrisy. Consequently, when followers of Jesus advocate doing things that don't seem to conform very well to what Jesus says in the Gospels and when they actually point to the Bible as their authority for why we should do those things, it is both very effective and very easy to undercut those followers' arguments by pointing out their hypocrisy. If we're supposed to do things because of what the Bible says, don't you think it's fair that we should at least be able to check whether the Bible actually supports doing those things? That's not exactly demonization, I don't think.

Now, if Jesus were a lot vaguer in the Gospels—for example, if *everything* he said came in the form of difficult parables—that would be another story. But a lot of the time, he is really not very vague at all, and that's always going to be a problem for *anybody* who tries to make arguments, conservative OR liberal, about how we should behave, individually and as a society, on the basis of Biblical authority.

OK, I hope that's helpful.

So, let me see. HIV is God's punishment for homosexuality, New Orleans deserved Katrina because of the way the people there lived, and the 9/11 attack was God's punishment for the immorality of the gay lifestyle, the ACLU, etc..

This begs the question, why did God kill Falwell? Could it be for the hypocricy of all the fundamentalist ministers involved in sex scandals? Or, how about the war in Iraq? Or the scandals and corruption of the Bush Administration that he supported? Or the distruction of the late, great American middle class? Or, how about that he was just a fat, bloated, pompous windbag?

And with the death of Mr. Falwell comes plenty of examples of how the spirit of the Anti-Christ is alive and kicking in America. The gay "tolerance" crowd demonstrating their hypocrites by cheering and celebrating his death. The anti-bullying and name-calling crowd are calling Christians "haters" and other foul names.

Hey! what if he was right and actually told you the truth.
That makes your posts on him read a little differently!
Amazing such hate for a man, who gave so much to others.
or is it for his God?
Jesus, son of Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Iassac and Jacob.
I guess we'll find out someday.
What's your choice, smoking or non-smoking?

Hey! what if he was right and actually told you the truth.
that makes your posts on him read a little differently!
Amazing such hate for a man, who gave so much to others.
or is it for his God?
Jesus son of Jehovah the God of Abraham Iassac and Jacob.
I guess we'll find out someday.
What's your choice, smoking or non-smoking?

Posted by An enlightened one
May 16, 2007
Hey! what if he was right and actually told you the truth.
--------------------

If Falwell was correct, and God is in fact pro-war, then what does it say about people who worship such a god?

A god who favors humans killing each other is not a god who should be worshipped. We have laws against killing, and even the 10 Commandments forbid it.

The moral, honorable, and courageous person would defy rather than worship any god who is pro-war.

If Falwell is correct, then fie on him and his god.

We'll take our chances, 'Un enlightened One'. He wasn't right about much that could be fact checked, which suggests his speculations are poorly uninformed guesses generally.

Funny you should suggest that his God is consistent with the Hebrew Bible and Jewish tradition. People who know what pre-Christian paganism was like in northern and northwestern Europe easily recognize what the whole present American 'Christian Right' phenomenon represents. Falwell's God is/was a lot closer to the Nature deity worshipped by Horsa and Hengist than any Biblical one.

I'll take 'smoking', thank you very much! :D

"I'll take 'smoking', thank you very much! :D"

Me too! I think there will be fewer anal retentives in that section, but, of course, I could be wrong.

I'm unsure if there is a "hereafter", but it would certainly be ironic if Falwell went to the great beyond and was met at the entrance by Saddam Hussein.

I hope we can get beyond his death and start talking about Comey's testimony.

Anyone see Andrew Young on the NewsHour last night defending the great work of Paul Wolfowitz?

What a disappointment. He looked and sounded so out of touch, like any member of the DC establishment.

I'm unsure if there is a "hereafter", but it would certainly be ironic if Falwell went to the great beyond and was met at the entrance by Saddam Hussein.

I hope we can get beyond his death and start talking about Comey's testimony.

Anyone see Andrew Young on the NewsHour last night defending the great work of Paul Wolfowitz?

What a disappointment. He looked and sounded so out of touch, like any member of the DC establishment.

"Condolences to the many whose lives he touched..."

Here are those Falwell touched:

""I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this [9/11] happen.'"

Have you lost your mind?

Falwell spewed and inflamed hatred towards gays, lesbians, "feminists", Jews, Muslims, African Americans (he was a segregationist and a partisan of Apartheid), etc... during his entire life.

He was a despicable and noxious creature. The human race is richer for his passing.

Anyone see Andrew Young on the NewsHour last night defending the great work of Paul Wolfowitz?
*******
I did. This was the first time I've seen him on TV in ages. He did look horrible, and his defense of Wolfowitz was baffling to me. Seems I recall that Young was rather recently dismissed from some board, maybe Walmart, for something he said or did. I thought the female in the discussion with Young and moderated by Judy Woodruff was the more rational.

Actually I was more saddened to learn of the death of MLK's eldest daughter Yolanda King at age 51.
The family has a history of heart disease. i believe she was participating in a series of lectures on heart disease at the time of her death.

Its a real shame all these liberal idiots
want to disgrace the dead
its to bad their liberal moms and dads
had so much premarital sex that they were
born in the first place to bad they didnt
get an abortion. im sure the world would be
a much better place with out them

Lets see...the guy stands up for unborn babies where anybody with a brain can see a beating heartbeat and researchers know the babies feel pain and he is evil. He believes premarital sex is wrong and even though every single bit of research backs that those who are faithful have happier lives, better sex (not near the impotant rates)and disease is spreading among our young people rampantly.

He said some things that he has apologized for. You and I and anybody with strong opinions oversteps their grounds sometimes. I believe to hate him for saying what he believes is to be an absolute and complete bigot. He called what he believed to be wrong, wrong and because you want those things you hate him. Bigot, Bigot, Bigot!!!

I really don't agree with everything he said or probably even believed, but I have to say I think the way many of you are reacting you have to honestly look yourselves in the mirror and realize your statements are as bigoted as the come.

I pray for all of you with hatred in your hearts. It's very eye opening that everyone who calls Falwell a hater and bigot and see all the hatred posted here. Seems to me that Falwell spoke some truth that you don't like. Search your hearts. I'm sure what you find you know is not of God.

Denver Morgan
May 16, 2007
Its a real shame all these liberal idiots
want to disgrace the dead
its to bad their liberal moms and dads
had so much premarital sex that they were
born in the first place to bad they didnt
get an abortion. im sure the world would be
a much better place with out them
*****
Let's see, you come here name calling, claiming
"liberal idiots" want to "disgrace the dead."
I think Falwell pretty much disgraced himself while alive, so whatever is said about him now that he is dead is mild in comparison to what he said about a sizeable portion of Americans.

If you are here to speak in behalf of Falwell, then I suggest you take a look at the words you typed and tell us how you are any less odious than Falwell.

Posted by MLS
May 16, 2007
I pray for all of you with hatred in your hearts. It's very eye opening that everyone who calls Falwell a hater and bigot and see all the hatred posted here. Seems to me that Falwell spoke some truth that you don't like. Search your hearts. I'm sure what you find you know is not of God.
*******
And when Falwell told Barry Lynn, who claims to be a Christian, that he was NOT a Christian was that "of God"? See, you just did the same thing that you accuse others of doing. You claim that what is in someone else's heart is "not of God." You are basing it on typed words. You are judging. Well, many others judged Falwell by the words he spoke too, and often the words that Falwell spoke seemed "not of God."

If there is justice in the hereafter, Mr. Falwell has a lot of 'splainin' to do.

A hateful, intolerant and racist man is dead. Don't be surprised if groups of people around the world feel relief.

My god is forgiving, and I'm sure he'll forgive Falwell for all of the hate he espoused in his life. It's two-faced and phony to honor a man in death, who was hateful and racist and despised in life.

But god will forgive him, as god forgives us all. ;-)

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