October 12, 2007 9:05
The Horror. The Horror.
Paul Krugman has a terrific column--reinforcing Karen's Swamp outrage the past few days--about the Republican propaganda campaign to discredit a child. Krugman's larger point is that this is business as usual for the latter-day Republican Party and also for much of the mainstream media. (Did CNN really buy the GOP disinformation? If so, shame on them.) My hope is that the stakes are high enough, and public interest will be intense enough in 2008 to undermine the effectiveness of slime campaigns. In the past--Willie Horton, impeachment, Bush's anti-McCain slime in 2000, the Swift Boats in 2004--I've tried to respond rapidly to this sort of stuff. I've got to say, though, the Graeme Frost campaign is about the lowest and skuzziest I've seen so far.
Meanwhile, David Brooks has a good column on the same page about the failure of the Republican party to address the needs of families like the Frosts. One problem, though: he touts John McCain's health care plan--but, as with all the other Republican plans, McCain's doesn't require the insurance companies to cover all applicants, regardless of pre-existing conditions, which means the Frosts would be continue to be left out.
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Reader Comments (54)
Actually, I think the Brooks column is more important, because it gets to the root of the matter: Republicans kick up all this dust and muck precisely because they have no plans, they offer nothing to actually ameliorate the hard conditions for families like the Frosts. So they have to make it seem like the Frosts deserve no help.
If Brooks didn't have to write his column, Krugman wouldn't have to write his.
Posted by mikeg | October 12, 2007 9:48 AM
Joe writes: "(Did CNN really buy the GOP disinformation? If so, shame on them.)"
Joe, how difficult do you think it would be to confirm this? Are you really this lazy? Can't you google "Frost, CNN"?
Here is the ThinkProgress link....
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/11/cnn-blame-dems-graeme/
Posted by p_lukasiak | October 12, 2007 9:49 AM
Krugman Money quote:
All in all, the Graeme Frost case is a perfect illustration of the modern right-wing political machine at work, and in particular its routine reliance on character assassination in place of honest debate. If service members oppose a Republican war, they’re “phony soldiers”; if Michael J. Fox opposes Bush policy on stem cells, he’s faking his Parkinson’s symptoms; if an injured 12-year-old child makes the case for a government health insurance program, he’s a fraud.
Meanwhile, leading conservative politicians, far from trying to distance themselves from these smears, rush to embrace them. And some people in the news media are still willing to be used as patsies.
Politics aside, the Graeme Frost case demonstrates the true depth of the health care crisis: every other advanced country has universal health insurance, but in America, insurance is now out of reach for many hard-working families, even if they have incomes some might call middle-class.
And there’s one more point that should not be forgotten: ultimately, this isn’t about the Frost parents. It’s about Graeme Frost and his sister.
Posted by sy | October 12, 2007 9:58 AM
"Moreover, it undermines the populist worldview that is building on the left of her party."
Boy, does David Brooks love that straw man. Dude, the populists to her left are *from* the middle class--we've seen the old New Deal middle class eroded. We've seen unashamed robber-baron-like behavior from the GOP. We're really a "radical middle", as Paul Krugman put it in this interview:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/055632.php
Posted by JJ | October 12, 2007 9:59 AM
"Radicalized middle," that should be.
Posted by JJ | October 12, 2007 10:00 AM
Joe: you might find out more about a staffer at Mitch McConnell's office who sent off an e mail on the attack on the Frost family. Since you have access how about asking good ol Mitch to explain his office's role.
Posted by alan | October 12, 2007 10:02 AM
This is Exhibit A to why certain filthy republican propoganda operatives rather engage in vigorous whisper campaigns than come from behind the curtain. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoM90bAsr1M&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efiredoglake%2Ecom%2F
Posted by sy | October 12, 2007 10:05 AM
"Paul Krugman has a terrific column--reinforcing Karen's Swamp outrage the past few days--about the Republican propaganda campaign to discredit a child."
Obviously, it's a great thing that Joe Klein is linking to Krugman's excellent column. Joe's a pretty reliable barometer of Establishment conventional wisdom, so this is very encouraging.
But to be clear, Karen's outrage has emphatically *not* been directed at a "Republican campaign". The fact of the matter is that a reader who relied on Karen's work for information about the Frost episode would not have known what a reader of Krugman's column learned: that the swiftboating of the kid was part of a pattern of conduct by Republicans and their allies. Just re-read the posts and the article. To my knowledge, Karen has never written candidly about "swiftboating" or how the right wing machine operates. She has certainly not portayed the Frost episode as part of a "Republican campaign". On the contrary, she attributed the episode to "partisanship" in general. There is a world of difference between what Krugman wrote and what Karen wrote.
Here's hoping that Joe or Karen (or anyone) at Time will, in the near future, actually write an article in the magazine about Swift-boating and explain to their readers how the "Republican campaign" works.
Joe also wrote:
"My hope is that the stakes are high enough, and public interest will be intense enough in 2008 to undermine the effectiveness of slime campaigns. In the past--Willie Horton, impeachment, Bush's anti-McCain slime in 2000, the Swift Boats in 2004--I've tried to respond rapidly to this sort of stuff."
For the record, here's what Joe wrote in Time magazine about the Kerry Swift-boating episode in real-time, on August 22, 2004:
"The Swifties' ability to dominate the news with incendiary nonsense is, I believe, a direct result of Kerry's unwillingness to dominate the news with tart, controversial substance by challenging the President on Iraq."
In 2004, Joe Klein was arguing that the success of the Swift-boating campaign was "a direct result" of Kerry's conduct.
http://www.time.com/time/election2004/columnist/klein/article/0,18471,685961,00.html
Again, I'm happy that Joe Klein is seeing this clearly now. He's a weathervane, a cipher, so his views at any given point in time tell you a great deal about which way the political winds are blowing at that particular point in time. That he's linking to Krugman and disapproving of the "Republican campaign" to Swift-boat the Frost kid is a very encouraging sign.
Posted by Eric | October 12, 2007 10:06 AM
Joe,
What, other than a desire to appear balanced, caused you to recommend the Brooks piece? It's the same incessant pro-Republican spin disguised as independent thinking that he always brings to market.
A month ago, George Will did the "I'm a Republican and I hate where my party has ended up article," and did it much better and more honestly. Since then, Brooks has parroted the line at least twice, but solely as a delivery vehicle for his real message, which is that Democrats are captive to their radical "populist" (he's too sophisticated to say "socialist," but it's what he means) wing, and that we should nominate Hillary, because he thinks that they can beat her.
Typical dishonest Brooks pablum. Do you honestly think that he intends this as a good faith critique of Republican policy?
Posted by paul | October 12, 2007 10:07 AM
Forgot to mention the ever hilarious "they stole our economic policy" meme.
Posted by Paul | October 12, 2007 10:10 AM
That's a great quote, Eric.
It might be that it's completely unfair and missing the point to read Klein's columns over the years as reflcting some sort of intellectually defensible position.
Rather, they reflect party line DC centrism du jour.
So seven months ago, Paul Krugman was an ill-informed dilettante. But now he's full of trenchant insights.
Maybe accuracy, expertise, and sanity are becoming cool again.
Maybe.
Posted by Elvis Elvisberg | October 12, 2007 10:24 AM
God bless Krugman.
As usually happens when I read a "good Klein" post, an incredible sense of foreboding overcomes me that a "bad Klein" column is on the horizon. So, if I may, I'd like to pre-empt what I see as potential bad Klein bait in the same edition of the NYT. Please, don't ever, ever write a post like this one: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/washington/12memo.html?_r=1&ref=washington&oref=slogin
I am terrified knee-jerk centrist Klein will find the lure of this "extremist Dems" meme will be too great. Such narratives of an extreme Democratic Party beholden to its uncompromising base is like a siren song to Broder and the like. Resist, Joe! Resist!
In fairness, for once they actually give a specific example of a case where the Democratic extremist base is causing problems, but the entire frame is absurd. So let me pre-empt this pundit-nip before it knocks you off the wagon.
If such a post were to appear on Swampland, this is the first thing I will post in the comments section:
"Still waiting on that column in which Joe Klein examines how the Republican Party is hurting itself among independents by its co-dependency with its extremist base."
In a story like this, you can almost hear the sigh of relief as pundits finally find their opening to discuss all the frustrations they had with the DeLay style hammering of members in line now that they can frame these issues in the context of Democratic infractions.
Such projecting of Republican sins on Democrats ignores a fundamental fact of modern politics you never address: the defining chracteristic of the modern Republican Party is a single-minded focus on loyalty, and firing up its most extreme members. The defining chracteristic of the modern Democratic Party is Clinton triangulation, middle-way, independent targeted compromise. This is why, even after a Democratic route, no Republican, no matter what misgivings they state in public, has ever voted for a piece of legislation that would limit the war. This is why Democrats, after a clear public rebuke of GOP politics, is EXPANDING the powers of a lame duck President. (Posts like yesterdays didn't help, Joe).
While the pundits were silent about this dynamic, it was the bloggers who were denouncing the partisan tactics of DeLay's K-Street. Unlike you, we denounced it, but at the same time admired its effectiveness. I was part of those discussions about what we can learn from the success of a unified Republican Party that wouldn't compromise our ideals.
The conclusion, which you have yet to recognize, is that while Republicans are suffering for having no issue on which they are willing to compromise, us navel-gazing Democrats need to figure out what one or two principles are so central to our beliefs that there can be no compromise. Bloggers have figured it out: civil liberties, bringing an end to the war madness of King George, empiricism over ideaology, and stop torturing people. Our Party, as of yet, does not have any principles they're willing to go to the matt for, let alone make the oppostion actually filibuster when they filibuster.
What McCain showed is how Republican treat anyone who doesn't fall in line. What our stand against Leiberman showed is that we are no longer anything-goes. Republicans suffer because they never yield. We suffer because we never hold our ground.
The major reason for this double standard is that you have to pretend Tom DeLay is reasonable and serious, while casting any resistance to giving a failed President more authority to exacerbate the failures that have been thoroughly rebuked by the public as partisan and unyielding.
Up is down.
Posted by Memekiller | October 12, 2007 10:25 AM
CNN's John Roberts is dumb.
And there's no need to say that in a more sophisticated way...
Posted by Enceladus | October 12, 2007 10:25 AM
John Roberts of CNN not only bought the goper smears, he and the "analyst" who appeared with him used phrases lifted directly from McConnell's attack email. They blamed the Democrats for not "vetting" the child well enough, as if the gop's smears of the family were based on facts rather than pure viciousness and and ideologically driven anger. Roberts never mentioned the fact that the Frosts have been stalked, harassed and threatened with death by maniacs on rightwing blogs. That would have detracted from the point he was trying to make, which was that the child and his family deserved their brutal treatment for exercising their right to free speech.
This sort of partisan lunacy is par for the course for Roberts and his colleagues. This morning, for instance, Heidi Collins grilled Miles O'Brien when the latter refuted her claim that "many scientists" do not believe that global warming is a reality. When O'Brien stated that there is no dispute within the scientific community, Collins pressed him to agree that this was not in fact true. She seemed miffed at the end of the segment not to have gotten the answer she wanted. Why did she want that particular answer? Why, to undercut Al Gore's achievements, of course.
CNN continually advances rightwing smears like this. They did it with the Swift Boat Liars in 2004, giving those smear merchants many hours of free exposure during which their lies were repeated unchallenged. It is no surprise that CNN's reporters are repeating goper lies uncritcally. It's what they do.
Posted by Xeno | October 12, 2007 10:27 AM
Brooks' Pen:
"Right now, the general election campaign looks like it’s going to be a replay of the S-chip debate. The Democrats propose something, and the Republicans have no alternative."
Brooks' Conscience:
"The Democrats propose something, and the Republicans have no alternative so engage in character assassination".
Posted by eddie-george | October 12, 2007 10:28 AM
Ugh, re-reading that, I wish I hadn't been so obnoxious.
This is a good post by Joe, and I shouldn't have gone dumping on Joe here for things he said three years ago. I disagree with what he wrote in 2004, and about Krugman a little while back, but that can be expressed in a non-obnoxious manner.
And, though I think Joe was mistaken at the time, it's possible to disagree with one thing Krugman wrote a while back while accepting something more recent. Sorry Joe.
Posted by Elvis Elvisberg | October 12, 2007 10:28 AM
Why do the Democrat party and their identically like-minded useful idiots of the Washington press corps use phony "soldiers" and exploit little children of phony "poor" parents to further their anti-American agenda?
Posted by Tom | October 12, 2007 10:29 AM
What Eric said.
I want to know whether Karen got the email from McConnell's office but so far she has declined to deny that she received one, although the TPM article states that it was broadcast to reporters.
Karen's story was dishonest in that someone reading it would be unaware that this was a concerted effort by the right and orchestrated straight out of the Senate Minority Leader's office to "Schiavo" a 12-year-old kid and his family.
Instead, she chose to take the hand-wringing, "ain't it awful" route, which served to imply that Democrats and those of us in the left blogosphere are using the same appalling tactics. That is decidedly untrue.
DC journalists like Karen and Jay deeply resent being accused of carrying Republican water along with the Rush Limbaughs and Bill O'Reillys of the right. But pieces like Karen's, which do nothing but handwringing about dirty politics without informing their readers about the roots of this smear, actually do amount to carrying their water. McConnell's media staff know that they can count on the Karen Tumultys of DC journalism to refrain from specifying where the smear originated, which encourages them to continue while escaping responsibility for the harm they do.
-James
Posted by Anonymous | October 12, 2007 10:38 AM
My brother has a theory that CNN's John Roberts might have been physically roughed up last year after he noted in one of his on-air appearances that Iraq was in chaos.
Apparently, his faced looked pretty bad the day after he made that statement.
Of course, this hasn't been verified. But maybe some of Roberts's journalist friends could ask him how he got his faced messed up.
Just saying...
(And btw, CNN's fact-checks this morning on Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" might be even-handed for once, but they still send this implicit message: this Nobel prize is illegitimate!''
I really don't understand why journalists hate this guy so much...)
Posted by Enceladus | October 12, 2007 10:50 AM
HORROR, Say Joe, IS Soviet-style tactics being used to plant bombs in kid toys by the terror scum in Iraq, aided & abetted by Iran, marketed by Time-CNN-Jazeera, and swallowed without regard by DNC HQ and the moral cowards in Lantos Land.
HATE, sadly, IS what happens when liberals are confronted with actual math, as their bogus "program for kids" IS exposed for the over-reaching, politically pandering mess only a true socialist slacker could love.
Try to know the difference.
Posted by QUESTION HILLARY™ | October 12, 2007 11:30 AM
Why are columnists, reports, journalists, newscasters AFRAID to report the fact that this smear campaign against an injured child and his family was initiated by the Republican Senate Minority Leader McConnell's office!!!
That's right - a Senator's office. And don't even think to excuse McConnell himself from this kind of attack. Where is the apology from McConnell's office?
Posted by still disgusted | October 12, 2007 11:33 AM
"McCain's doesn't require the insurance companies to cover all applicants, regardless of pre-existing conditions..."
So if I'm fat, drunk, stupid smoking, meth infested, AIDS swapping, and otherwise basically self-destructive, that still qualifies me for Hillarycare II?
Sweet Allah be praised!
Posted by QUESTION HILLARY™ | October 12, 2007 11:34 AM
Major league cost savers in Hillarycare II (pending political spinal breakdown in 48 states)...
/// AARP Medicare Supplement Plan to be outlawed, replaced with mandatory Elder Summers In Paris, France deluxe one-way travel program.
/// Only 50% of DNC insider short sales earnings on deposed drug companies to be contributed to People's Army Dry Cleaning & Legal Defense Fund.
/// Complimentary euthanasia readiness testing for all California state employees over 28 years of age.
/// All physicians will be tagged Dr. Doolittle, all aides Nurse Cratchett.
/// Rural hospitals converted to rustic log cabins for late term mountain abortions (Surgeon Channeler John Edwards presiding).
/// Declare all lead toys imported during the 1990's a "special dietary addition to the urban confidence course of life".
/// IRS Form 1040 check-off box for new Prior Year Long Island Asian Family Teen Suicide Attempts deduction.
/// Export most fat people.
/// Paper ER garments to be replaced with nudity, total bikini waxing, and a good interior UV and HPV blocking cream.
/// When a kid complains of a chest cold with a bad cough, tell him to "suck it up like those lousy little ingrate Boat People that I helped create, and get back to work licking more Hillary 2016 campaign junk mail stamps".
/// Reconsider ethnic cleansing (Red States only).
/// Add swearing, adultery, influence peddling, pardon sales, perjury, and penis breath (AKA Barney Frank's Disease) to CDC list of national mental health care priorities. Then announce broadened coverage for all pre-existing mental health conditions, in broadened free federal mega cradle to grave before national fiscal calamity coverage.
/// Have Blozo make another speech, do another sycophant, slap another suffragette, and then all pardoned Aspeners jet off for Davos!
Posted by QUESTION HILLARY™ | October 12, 2007 11:39 AM
Joke Line "thoughtfully" wonders:
"Did CNN really buy the GOP disinformation?"
...
Jesus Christ, Joke Line, there really isn't any kind of "uncertainty" attached to CNN "buying" the Gooper line on this. John Roberts lifted the McConnell staffer's words verbatim. You can click on the commenter's ThinkProgress link or you can read the damn transcript yourself. Christ almighty.
Here's a better question: How f--king lazy are you?
Just in the last 3-4 months you:
- falsely asserted that Markos opposed short-leash Iraq funding, without calling him to confirm;
- falsely asserted that Harman voted for funding, without checking the roll call;
- supported legislation that you didn't read and knew nothing about;
- and wondered if CNN "bought" some misinformation without reading the transcript.
Glenn Greenwald is right. The main problem with Joke Line is not that he's biased against liberals (though he is), or a narcissistic a--hole (though he is). The main problem with Joke Line's "work" is that he's extremely lazy. He writes s--t without putting in the effort to see if he is factually correct.
I think I'd rather have "Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey".
Posted by cfaller96 | October 12, 2007 11:40 AM
"...stop torturing people..."
Starting with the near-born, perhaps?
Posted by Nobel Piece Putz | October 12, 2007 11:41 AM
CNN, American Morning featuring Dumb and Dumber prepares you for the daily line-up. Actually, used to think that John Roberts was decent. Actually, used to admire Anderson. Larry King is soooo bad he can turn an interview with Colbert into fluff.
Really, even CNN International at times has been corrupted.
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Joe, thx for the carrot about Graeme which is still weak considering the lack of a real discussion of ALL the players throwing out slime which has lead to 'death threats' and stalking. [Joe, no comment about Coulter coming after the Jews yet?] Aren't the private schools for 'special needs kids? Just checking.
But the stick really s$cked. I'm referring to the link to your Hil's triangulation of the WalMart-Wall Street welfare plan wrapped in a 'middle class meme'. Okay it tastes better than the failed privatized Social Security plan. C'mon tell us more about the Iran vote and how it benefits us. Or a chorus of NAFTA-CAFTA.
DLC is the s$ck that is sick. Penn defends Blackwater????
Posted by linda | October 12, 2007 11:41 AM
Correction: That should be "Nobel Pizza Putz".
Posted by Nobel Pizza Putz | October 12, 2007 11:44 AM
How does this blip on the PBS gaydar erase Hillary's federal 401k mandatory plan, which is nothing less than PRIVATIZATION of retirement funding at DC gunpoint?
Anyone?
Anyone at all?
Posted by I just triangulated an alley cat | October 12, 2007 11:48 AM
I've got to say, though, the Graeme Frost campaign is about the lowest and skuzziest I've seen so far.
Give it a couple of months, Joe. They'll find a way to go even lower.
Posted by Fledermaus | October 12, 2007 12:38 PM
Eric hopes that Time will write about "Swift-Boating and how the "Republican campaign" works.
Won't happen. They are cowards. They are afraid of Limbaugh. Whenever any mainstream media outlet exposes Republican lies and manipulations without also mentioning that "Democrats do it too," despite such comparisons always being as valid as, say "China equals Luxemburg," Limbaugh unleashes his patented "liberal drive-by media" attack. And big media cowers because they want Limbaugh's flying monkeys to be their consumers.
This is the power and danger and corruption of our national media.
Posted by smedley | October 12, 2007 12:48 PM
The McConnell revelation came out AFTER Karen's column did, people. Wipe that foam off your lips and tie down those knees.
Posted by KleinShield | October 12, 2007 12:59 PM
Don Stewart is the name of the sleazoid McConnell staffer who sent the lying, sliming e-mail attacking Graeme Frost and his family. Stewart draws a taxpayer-funded salary and, in theory, should be accountable to the taxpayers and the media. Is it possible that a Time reporter can actually ask Stewart why he decided to smear the Frosts with blatant lies? How would Stewart like it if he was hounded and stalked? Would Stewart enjoy his address being posted on-line?
I realize that the Good Joe Klein wrote this - the bad Joe Klein smeared Paul Krugman back in January, gleefully piling on in cahoots with the usual slimy Republican smears. But the Good Joe Klein couls be better still - why not call Stewart and ask him why?
Posted by patroclus | October 12, 2007 1:04 PM
KleinShield wrote: "The McConnell revelation came out AFTER Karen's column did, people."
So what?
You're welcome to cook up new entertaining images about deraged left-wing moonbats foaming at the mouth if that makes it easier for you to think about these issues without moving your lips, but this is a serious question: so what?
Posted by Eric | October 12, 2007 1:16 PM
Not that it matters, but the Stewart-authored sleazy e-mail from McConnell's office - repeating Michele Malkin's lies - came out before Karen's column. The issue, of course, is why did Stewart decide to slime all over Graeme Frost and his brain-damaged little sister? What was McConnell's role, if any? Is sliming all over 12-year olds McConnell's new political strategy??
Posted by patroclus | October 12, 2007 1:41 PM
This whole episode is just another example of the fundamental problem with the Republican party: they hate the middle class. They're equal parts Ayn Rand, Henry Potter and Ebenezer Scrooge. If the middle class aren't rich and powerful, it's only because of their own failure. Tax wages but not dividends and capital gains. Squeeze workers to be more productive, but don't let them share in that productivity via higher wages. If they get sick, let them die and reduce the surplus population. Build a propaganda machine that would make Josef Goebbels blush and use it to slime everyone that gets in your way.
Their problem is that we live in a democracy where there are more middle class than there are of them and there are laws against the things they want to do. But they have a solution to that, too. Disenfranchise as many middle class voters as possible. Use every arm of government to help steal elections. Bus in protesters to disrupt vote-counting and get a friendly Supreme Court to abandon its principles and overturn the election. Form an unholy alliance with the religious nut-cases. Take over the means of enforcing the laws to not only look the other way, but get actively involved in breaking the laws.
After the Constitutional Convention had finished its work in 1787, a woman asked Ben Franklin what kind of government had been decided upon. He replied: "A republic, if you can keep it."
It's time to take our country back, people. And there's no time to waste.
Posted by Franco | October 12, 2007 1:54 PM
McConnell SENT THE EMAIL TO REPORTERS before Karen's column. Get it?
Sheesh!
Posted by Anonymous | October 12, 2007 2:22 PM
Two weeks from now, if anybody remembers anything about this, this will be what they remember: "The Republicans were trying to discredit a twelve-year-old." Right or wrong, that's what's going to be remembered. And nobody, either here or in the Republican leadership, thinks it's odd or out of character that they would do that.
Posted by Tel | October 12, 2007 3:39 PM
I like how every defense of the swiftboating of Frost ends in *splutter, splutter* Hillarycare! Socialist! hiss! spit!
Why don't you guys just censure and MoveOn? The longer you keep this alive, the worse you all look.
On the other hand...
Posted by Question Question Hillary | October 12, 2007 4:08 PM
"So what?"
You're asking Karen to have included something in her column that didn't exist when written. But don't let that stop you from casting yourself as the intrepid crusader against the draconian menace of Karen Tumulty, Establisment Monolith.
Posted by KleinShield | October 12, 2007 4:15 PM
"You're asking Karen to have included something in her column that didn't exist when written."
No, I'm not. Don't know where this is coming from.
Posted by Eric | October 12, 2007 4:51 PM
KleinShield
"You're asking Karen to have included something in her column that didn't exist when written. "
____________
You're wrong.
1)The email from McConnell's office smearing the 12-year-old was broadcast to reporters.
2) Karen writes up the story.
3) The email was leaked to ThinkProgress and TPM.
Get it?
Karen has declined to comment on whether she received the email. She's a reporter who regularly receives leaks from Republicans, including McConnell's office. Why wouldn't anyone believe she received the email, along with CNN and many others? And why would we believe that Time Magazine once again provided cover for Republican dirty tricks? They have a history of doing that. See Libby, Scooter and Rove, Karl crossed with Cooper, Matt and Carney, Jay.
-James
Posted by Anonymous | October 12, 2007 6:04 PM
Late update.
Karen denied receiving an email from McConnell's office in the Swampcast above.
-James
Posted by Anonymous | October 12, 2007 7:33 PM
Assuming arguendo that Karen didn't get and hadn't heard of the email from McConnell's office... so what?
The story wasn't transformed by the revelation about the email and its provenance. Karen knew what the real story was when she wrote the article: a swift-boating by the right wing machine. It wasn't the "blogosphere" doing this, or a product of "partisanship", or rough-and-tumble politics in a world gone mad... it was a swift-boating operation.
Sorry KleinShield, but there's no dancing around it: everyone who follows this stuff knew exactly what this was. That's why Karen (correctly) called it a "swift-boating." But not everyone follows this stuff, obviously. (Cough cough).
Karen cited Mark Steyn, an obscure freeper blogger and blog commenters on Red State as culprits, but kept quiet about the fact that this was part of a pattern of conduct -- "swift boating" -- undertaken by the right wing machine as a matter of course to silence or discredit its opponents. It was also Rush, Malkin, the whole wingnutosphere... and there was just no doubt as to what this was and where it was heading. This is how the right wing movement in this country operates -- and of course Karen knew all of this. But instead of calling it like it is, she crafted a "balanced" story that carefully avoided connecting the dots.
Karen stuck up for the Frost family and shed light on important facts -- good things. But she didn't tell her readers what she knew: that this was a standard ring wing operation, like many before it. Karen also knows how the mainstream press has been complicit in past swift-boatings, though she's never written about that either.
My criticism of Karen's piece is not that she failed to condemn an email of which she was unaware. I'm not faulting her for not having ESP. (Though I certainly agree that if she was aware of the email and failed to disclose its existence in the article, the misleading stuff about "partishanship" and angry bloggers is made all the more misleading).
My criticism is that Karen sat -- and continues to sit -- on one of the most important stories of our age: how the right wing machine operates. She's silent about these things, even as she's staring them in the face: the Frost kid was not the victim of a random one-off incident. The Frost kid was attacked as part of the right wing's standard operating procedure for discrediting its opponents.
I'll ask the question again: is there a rule at Time that says journalists aren't allowed to tell this story to their readers? Do editors change the words "right wing machine" to "angry bloggers" as a matter of policy?
I'll stop being frustrated and upset by this when Time starts covering this story. Until then, I'm going to be shrill.
Have a good weekend!
Posted by Eric | October 12, 2007 7:59 PM
I agree with you Eric. I'd like to see a followup story in Time Mag that covers exactly what happened here: that the smear was originated in the office of the Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Republican from Kentucky.
Donald R. Stewart, the $140,000 per year Communications Director from the Senate Minority Leader's Office, broadcast an email to DC reporters and bloggers containing talking points to smear the 12-year-old boy and his family along with Democrats.
A planned press release was canned when the smear went out of control when rightwing bloggers, including prominent author, columnist and TV pundit Michelle Malkin, stalked the hapless family, questioning neighbors and coworkers about the family's income, work habits, and the value of their home, posting the family's information on her website which precipitated death threats against the 12-year-old boy's parents.
I don't think you can expect Time Magazine, the red-bordered hood ornament on the MSM 16-wheeler, to want to cover a story like this. I mean, who would be interested? Just another round of dirty tricks by the Republicans. It's business as usual. They all go along with it.
Not only do they go along with it, but many of them, notably ABC, CNN, NBC, and CBS, copy and paste those talking points into their news of the day. Why would they risk alienating their major source of easy news copy? Answer: they won't.
Posted by Anonymous | October 12, 2007 10:19 PM
Joe, this is great that you abhor the typical disinformation that the Republicans put out, but where were you in the past?
Are you just "abhor"-ing it now because the paradigm has mutated into one in which the GOP isn't immune to scrutiny?
It would have been nice to have seen you "abhor" this practice when the Southern Strategy was in force or BEFORE the Republicans made their ignoble contribution to the English language. Your article is FULL of hand-wringing now.
As if you a reformer from the inside all along...
NOT!
Posted by Keven Bennett | October 13, 2007 1:15 PM
Just took a look at your other column about Merle Haggard, and you have just confirmed for me your hypocracy.
I see your tongue gets looser when you are playing to an "all white" audience, I see - I saw the words "overprivaleged minority" in between the lines. You missed a very sailent point, and glossed it over:
The migration of the "white male" was due to "Southern Strategy" now, which was a highly coded racist platform operating a persona known as the "angry white male".
I'm SURE that Mehlman wasn't speaking out of both sides of his mouth when he apologized before the NAACP for the conduct of the GOP during that time.
Shame, Joe, shame! Maybe Merle Haggard grew up and realized that the same issues that afflict Black Americans are also those that afflict the rest of us!
SHAME!
Posted by Keven Bennett | October 13, 2007 3:45 PM
Yes, Joe, this is about another column, but it is also about your self-rightious hand-wringing.
You see, the GOP essentially swift-boated our non-white Americans during those days and:
You are STILL selling it!
THAT is the connection between this article and your Merle Haggard peice.
Posted by Keven Bennett | October 13, 2007 3:49 PM
READ WHAT JOE KLEIN PREVIOUSLY SAID ABOUT THE "USE" OF CHILDREN BY REPUBLICANS! Read what this lying piece of feculant waste had to say about the practice of USING children to score political points, when it was the Republcans doing it! Now, that it's the Liberals dragging a kid around by the nose, not only is it OKAY, but he CONDEMNS those who had HIS PREVIOUSLY ARGUED POSITION!!! Excerpts below are from NEWSBUSTERS.COM
"Time's Joe Klein (file photo at right) professed he wanted to "throw up" after seeing President Bush showcase "snowflake babies," children adopted as frozen embryos, during a ceremony marking his veto of a bill to expand federally-funded destruction of embryos for medical research. Yet now Klein professes disdain not at Democratic partisans who used 12-year-old Graeme Frost to plug the vetoed SCHIP expansion, but conservative bloggers who brought scrutiny to bear on Frost's parents, Democratic officials, and a lapdog liberal media that uncritically relayed the Frost family's account.
*****Here's the relevant bit from a July 2006 edition of the "Chris Matthews Show":
And there's another aspect to this as well. That photo-op, this week with all of those babies made me want to throw up. It is so transparently political and cynical. I mean, you know, I think that the real thing that the Republican campaign Karl Rove is flying into is whether the level of his cynicism about all of these issues, and these sorts of photo-ops is gonna become an issue in this campaign itself. Are people gonna say, ‘How dumb do they think we are?'****"
JOE KLEIN, another lying liberal piece of crap...EXPOSED!
Posted by K.Diggs | October 15, 2007 3:28 PM
Pathetic Joe.
First, you are a total hypocrite. Remember July 2006 when Bush had kids "snowflake babies" at the signing of a bill you said "That photo-op, this week with all of those babies made me want to throw up."
Hmm..different story now when its a kid being used as a political prop by Democrats, isn't it Joe????
Second, still waiting to see 1 example of a smear on the family. Everything that was reported (work intermittenetly and part-time, own 3 SUV's, 2 properties, children attend expensive private schools) was true. Just because we dont' believe they should be eligible for government subsidized health care (just like a family of four earning up to $82,500 a year) doesn't mean that we are "smearing" them. Smearing someone would be calling them a "happy negro" (Juan Williams) or putting someone in blackface when you disagree with them (Michael Steele, Joe Lieberman).
Third, I've yet to see one example of an attack on the kid himself (much less anyone in general). Can anyone from the loony left provide one???
Posted by truthmattersfa | October 15, 2007 5:26 PM
"And there's another aspect to this as well. That photo-op, this week with all of those babies made me want to throw up. It is so transparently political and cynical. I mean, you know, I think that the real thing that the Republican campaign Karl Rove is flying into is whether the level of his cynicism about all of these issues, and these sorts of photo-ops is gonna become an issue in this campaign itself. Are people gonna say, ‘How dumb do they think we are?"
Hi Joe, remember saying that in July 2006 on the Chris Matthews Show? Yeah, it was about George Bush showcasing "snowflake babies," children adopted as frozen embryos, during a ceremony marking his veto of a bill to expand federally-funded destruction of embryos for medical research.
Had no problem attacking children then, did you?
Posted by Mike | October 15, 2007 5:38 PM
Hi Joe, you Tumulty and the other old lefties at Time have got accept the fact that your days of controlling the news, spewing liberal propoganda-unchallenged and unchecked- is over. DONE! Never to return!
Your ever dwindling readership should be added proof of that fact.
Posted by Mike | October 15, 2007 6:01 PM
I'm a little confused.
Fact: These people, the Frosts and the Wilkersons, are people who already have coverage under sCHIP. Otherwise we wouldn't be talking about the children at all, because they wouldn't be here today. So these are instances of sCHIP's success, not its failure or its need for expansion
Fact: Bush's veto of a $35 billion increase in the sCHIP program was in favor of a $5 billion increase in said program. In other words, the Frosts and the Wilkersons would still be covered by sCHIP if Bush's veto stands.
Fact: These increases in sCHIP would go to people who don't already have sCHIP insurance, meaning people wealthier than the Frosts/Wilkersons.
Question: Why are the Frosts and the Wilkersons suitable examples for the expansion the Democrats espouse? More to the point, why is it that the Dems don't bring up one of the families this expansion would actually apply to, namely the people just above the current line for sCHIP coverage? Is it because they couldn't find a suitable example, or is it because such an example would not be nearly as palatable to the American public as the disaster stories of the Frosts and Wilkersons?
All this without even bringing up the credibility of the Frost story.
Now, some right-wing blogs have tried to argue that the Frosts should have gotten insurance for their kids already. I don't really understand this - if sCHIP covered them, why would they need another insurance policy? So there are some weird issues on the right side too.
However, from my point of view there has been nothing to justify the Democratic expansion of sCHIP, certainly not the Frosts or Wilkersons.
Also, can anyone link me to all these supposed attacks on the children that have been tossed out by right-wing bloggers? Because for all the right-wing blogs I've read, I haven't seen a single mention of the children. The parents, and their lack of responsibility for not buying insurance (again, this seems nonsensical to me as they didn't need additional insurance, being covered by sCHIP), yes - but not the kids themselves.
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