My company made me look at porn

Why were our copies turned face down on the floor? Was that an acknowledgement that we might not want to start our morning looking at boobs? Or did they just want to make sure we didn't miss the half-naked women stroking a giant glass of Budweiser? I did get a fashion idea for swimsuit season: Don't wear the top. See, I never could have thought of that on my own.

This kid I went to high school with--I'll call him Bob, because that was his name--was caught reading the SI swimsuit issue inside another magazine in the school's library. We called him Swimsuit Bob from then on.

Why my high school--a Catholic high school, mind you--had a copy of the swimsuit issue I don't know.

Lisa, EVERYONE wants to look at scantily clad women. If you don't, something is wrong with you, you silly girl!

When America gets a prime-time game show with a female host and fifty sexily-dressed men carrying suitcases, then you'll be given the option of declining the swimsuit issue.

Yes, you are a prude. And yet you probably wonder why Time loses readers. Perhaps it's because people like you are out of step with the real world.

For swimsuit fashion tips? Uh huh. And most men read Playboy for the news articles. If they thought you really wanted to see the latest swimsuits (or lack thereof), they could have given you Vogue or Cosmo.

The SI Swimsuit Issue is just one more dumb excuse for men to look at even more women in positions of submission. Where's the sports content?

terrence: we're working on a time swimsuit issue, actually. featuring putin, bloomberg and mccain. cover boy: obama, of course.

I agree that SI is a sorry excuse for men to oogle scantily clad women and is one step away from being considered porn. And, SI is the last place I'd be getting fashion tips from and this is true for many people I know, so management is delusional if they think that.

It may be a bit melodramatic to describe the SI Swimsuit issue as porn, but tell me Terrence: what makes scantily clad women the "real world"?? Are you implying that if Time had a swimsuit issue, it would be more in step with the real world than say, an issue about our current economic crisis?

Seriously, calling SI porn is one of the most ludicrous things I've heard in a long time except for maybe calling the Harry Potter satanic. The supreme court defines anything as porn if it meets 2 requirements; 1) has no artistic merit 2) Causes sexual thoughts. By this criteria you may be right, but by that defintion EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL OR AD is pretty much porn. Now go start that crusade. Oh wait, you'd be out of a job because TIME would go under.

Get real, if an image or video does not specifically show sexual intercourse, it is not porn.

Now go get a life

If you don't want yours, I'll take it! :)

Look out Lisa. The hairy palms brigade is pretty ticked off that you insulted their bathroom literature of choice.

Excuse me, you're criticizing the portrayal of the SI Swimsuit Issue as porn even though it meets the Supreme Court's definition of porn? Hello??

The title of your post implies that you were forced to look at the issue. Did someone hold a gun to your head and force you to look at it? You knew it was going to be delivered. Why not just put it in the trash can and be done with it?

Paging Selena Roberts, please come to a white courtesy phone.

Didn't Sports Illustrated just recently hire Roberts -- the most prominent media voice on gender and athletics? When she was writing a column for the New York Times, a month couldn't go by without her zapping someone for misogyny.

Roberts' new publication, SI, has cover stories this week such as "Players' Wives Show It Off" and "Danica Patrick Reveals Her Racier Side." In the SI back-page column this week , Danica Patrick is asked about pressing issues including, "Have you ever gone naked under your [racing] suit?" and "You go commando?"

Word on all this from Selena Roberts so far: Nada. Just crickets chirping. Kinda puts all her sanctimony in perspective, doesn't it?

As I see it no one made you look at the issue, they simply put it in your office.

But the SI is by no means porn, if you think it is then you are a prude.

So, you were so horribly offended by the pornography that you decided to include a "pornographic" picture in your post?

You're a hypocrite.

If it's pornography, are you paying the appropriate fees to be an adult entertainment website? I mean, you're clearly posting pornography in a PG website.

Perhaps you should be reported to the authorities.

Of course it's porn. It may be softcore rather than hardcore porn, but porn it is.

I am a woman in her 50s who has been working in the sports industry for almost 30 years. I have been reading SI for a long time. Every year this thing shows up and it makes me queasy until I get it into the recycling bin. I wish Time would offer the option of NOT receiving that issue. I might even pay extra not to get it.

portlandia: I'm fairly center SI allows subscribers to opt-out and extend their subscription by one issue. Yes. Just found this on google:

http://trotz.com/2005/01/19/opting-out-of-the-swimsuit-issue/

Information below:

If you would like to opt out of the Swimsuit issue, simply call (866) 228-1175. You’ll need your account number, which is on the cover of your issue above your name. Today, February 4th is the last day to opt out for this year’s issue, so act now.

wow -- i'd love to hear a definition of porn that includes the SI swimsuit edition. are soap operas porn? they have sexual content and constantly shirtless men. are reality shows porn? again, the women wear bikinis and the men go shirtless.

how extraordinarily uptight do you have to be to get offended by SI? have you actually seen real porn?

so, let me get this straight. They made you open the magazine and go thru it page by page? Or you could have not even openen it up. Hmmm,
if it upsets you so, why dont you request not to receive the magazine? Remeber its called freedom of choice. Unless you just need a reason to complain about something

So you are really getting paid to b**ch and moan about receiving a copy of your company's magazine? They don't mind that instead of work output you waste your time contemplating ways to
complain?That sounds like a nice job...did you somehow not see that coming when you joined the company?
Thank God we have it so nice here in the United States that you don't have anything substantive to worry about. This is like the J Jackson halftime show fiasco - honestly grow up enough to let it go.

As to the comment concerning men "oogling" over the women -thatis only demeaning to feminist extremists and jealous women who are too lazy to exercise themselves. Have you ever read a Cosmopolitan magazine? Every single issue has the 100 best sex tips etc. etc. Do men complain? Yea thats right...

If pictures of women in swimsuits are porn, does that make the beach an orgy?

Lisa, wow, have to say, alot of commenters here really don't understand irony, or sarcasm, etc.

Great post. I mean, it didn't occur to alot of commenters that since your blog covers the work environment that the sheer irony that in many offices people aren't allowed or asked to put away mags like the SI swimsuit issue because of potential harassment complaints - which would make it 'porn' - obviously because people in the office would complain its offensive.

And totally spot on that a company like Time is doing a great job watching its bottom line by being as inefficient as possible as handing out copies that probably alot of people there wouldn't want.

Though one thought comes to mind, why even bother giving out hard copies at all - give access to the website, hello, it is 2008. Still, great post.

Wow. People bitching about being given free stuff that you can throw away. If you can't hear it, I've got a tiny violin for you betwixt my fingers.

>Look. I'm no prude.

You just called a swimsuit magazine which a person of any age can buy porn. Yeah, you need to catch up a few decades. I'm guessing you've never seen _actual_ porn, which has been produced freely since the 60's thanks to Playboy.

You seem to be using a relative definition of "porn" to mean anything of a sexual nature which offends you. And if it offends you, that's your own problem. Not mine, not your company's, not America's. If you don't like people having the freedom to distribute un-obscene material which nonetheless offends you, feel free to pop over to Saudi Arabia and enjoy being treated like a woman rather than an independent and rational being.

I've been in the publications business for years. I know that it's customary for those involved in the production of the magazine and its subsidiaries to receive copies once it returns from press.

According to your bio, you've been with the company since 2001. You mean to tell me that you hadn't noticed this yet? Why now do you make such an issue of this so-called "porn"? You seem to taking personal offense to something SI has done probably before you were born.

You knew what you were getting into when you took the job. Suck it up or else find something you can handle, prude.

Darn straight I"m in here defending my favorite bathroom reading. The articles in Playboy are better than most magazines and about 10x more insightful than "Do monkeys pay for sex?" (time.com, 2/14).

Of course it's porn. It's just not very, um, committed porn. It reminds me of Hooters. The men who go there are too bashful to go to a strip club. They think the purchase of chicken fingers will somehow shield them from embarrassment.

If you're going to degrade yourself, go all the way! Enjoy the trip!

"The SI Swimsuit Issue is just one more dumb excuse for men to look at even more women in positions of submission. Where's the sports content?"

It's a swimsuit issue. There are swimsuits in it, not sports.

Positions of submission? So posing for a model shoot is being submissive? I don't think so and I doubt any of the models do either. I suppose you mind gazing at scantily-clad men?

"My company made me look at porn"
Porn? I think that's a bit strong. Although I'm sure the term is being used purposely to make a point, porn is done in the nude and usually has sex involved.

I will agree that unsolicited mag copies aren't right. They should go by an online checklist; that way people will get copies of what they want and won't get what they don't. It would be a big pain for me to recieve Fortune Small Business, Coastal Living, Time for Kids and People en Espanol.

It also seems wasteful. You'd think they'd more than make up for the time and money making the issues that get thrown away by using a system that allows employees to choose what they do and don't want.

Again, I'm sure you're just making a point and decided that the swimsuit issue would be a better choice than Coastal Living to do so. But at the end of the day, no one made anyone look inside the magazine. I wouldn't want copies of magazines I wouldn't use either, but maybe next time make a petition for a better system or another similar idea instead of this?

Tempest in a teapot. You could easily do what you likely did with Coastal Living... toss it. There was no compelling reason to eyeball anything past the shrink-wrap other than to provide you with blog-fodder (which now has national atention). As a seven-year employee of Time, you've nicely bitten the hand that feeds you and your two babies. If you weren't engaged in a business that thrives on exploitation, perhaps your position would be more defensible. Please... don't whine, and hurry back to finding something provocative to capture my fleeting attention once again.

I can't believe this post is still getting comments. Where was everyone last week when Lisa posted about women getting raped and harrassed while working for defense contractors in Iraq, and the Judge told them sexual harassment was just an unfortunate reality for women in the workplace? That post got, like, 2 comments. This one is about a crappy swimsuit magazine and now people are coming out of the wordwork to call Lisa names.

Why is it that prudes always state, after whining about seeing attractive women they're threatened by, "I'm not a prude, but..."

YOU ARE A PRUDE. Learn to understand that going forward and your life and relationships will make a lot more sense.

homegirl--

I think people are commenting more on this because it's received more national attention on the blogs. Sadly, people would rather read about scandal than deal with the realities of the mess we currently have in Iraq.

moammar--

I think you're spot on in your appraisal. As long as we have a society that it is outraged by Jane Fonda dropping the c-bomb, there will be a need for sexy pictures that men and women can still pretend are "lingerie catalogs," or "swimsuit guides."

You're "no prude", yet you call the issue "porn".

Umm, yeah, you are a prude.

Hey, I have an idea for you. Throw the magazine out if you don't want to look at it! Bitching about getting freebies. Wow, I would love to change jobs with you, Paris.

Every one seems to be missing the point of Lisa's article. All it takes is referring to something as porn to bring out the intelligence in people, or is that lack of. The point is that the company made it difficult for her to obtain copies of her own magazine for pr purposes, yet felt it was such an honor to hand deliver a copy of SISE. Yes nobody made her look at it, but if someone handed you something, would you not look at it? I think so! Sex sells, if SISE was 100 pages of completely appalling women in swim suits would guys still be all over it…probably but not as much. And if there were no Swimsuit Edition, how many people would buy SI to begin with? So maybe the SE is not exactly porn, it is one step from arriving in a brown package, and definitely not something any good parent would allow their children to look at! Who seriously wears those swimsuits anyway, 1 in 100 Americans? Nowhere in the article did Lisa state that the issue offended her, just that it was handed down with praise. If given the option she would have rather had something else! Hopefully instead of Lisa tossing the issue, she gave it a greater purpose in life…a coaster for her cup of tea!

Jacob: Only 1 in 100 Americans wears these swimsuits because they're the only ones who have the right body type to do so. I would let my child look at the Swimsuit issue, but I don't think the human body is inherently shameful or seeing this issue is any worse than going to the beach.

doodabides

Your definition of porn is scarily vague

1 no artistic merit and 2. creates sexual thoughts

That could be anything from Hustler to a Planned Parenthood brochure. Are you sure about that?

Women HATE the SISI. They consider it porn because not only of the nature of the displays but because of the publicity and broad distribution and general acceptance (at least Playbot is more discreet). As a guy, I know we can't win this one.

PA: The SE is not a trip to the beach. It's a somewhat veiled porno mag. There's no way my wife wants that thing in her house, and I don't blame her. I quit reading SI when the SE first came out. You can't win me with candy (eye or otherwise), I read sports magazines (actually only one) for sports. To me it would be like National Geographic putting out a annual 'Topless Aboriginals' issue. I honestly think it's sick. Maybe in truth, I just prefer the 'next door' types. Faked-out 'babes' are not my cup of tea. Fake tan, fake nails, fake hair on top, fake no-hair on bottom, fake bosoms - just grosses me out. Be that as it may, it's just not sports. Perhaps it would be more fitting to see Barry Bonds v Roger Clemens showing off their swimsuits. Ha HA! - at least they're somewhat sports-mag material. Those women in swimsuits are not. SI - Fail.

Lisa, one more thing. Thank you for this post to your blog. The fellas writing that you've bitten the hand... or they'd trade jobs w/ you or telling you to not complain - let alone move to Saudi are missing the opportunity you provide. Questioning the objectifying others is a good place to start in making a better place. Hat's off to you for questioning your employer's motives and giving us something to do while we're at work !

I've put your blog in my 'Favs' and I look forward to checking in periodically. This is a good one : - )

Dear Lisa the Prude

Get A life ( i.e. a REAL job)

Or suck it up and stop using all your free work time to spot non-sensical feminist BS

Sincerely,

REALTY

PS meant spout (was a little carried away there, haha)

Behold the use of sarcasm in writing...

Not only does it make for a good read, but it sets off a mad chain reaction of commentary for those who might not quite get the big picture that goes beyond a bunch of scantily clad women in bust out bikinis.

For all of you still trying to figure it out, try reading the article again with a sense of humor.

I promise, it will do wonders.

Hi Lisa . . . In your favor, you are described as "the grumpy colleague ranting by the water cooler". So I will take the opportunity to be the guy who eggs you on by the water cooler.

It is a perk to receive free magazines, maybe the company would not have to crack down on free distribution if free-magazine whores such as yourself did not overburden the system (for example taking People en Espanol when you don't speak Spanish). Then you might be able to decide to get the Time magazine that you need for your work, and not get SI:SE, which you clearly do not want.

By your own definition, SI:SE should be considered valuable--it "is the most profitable of any single magazine-branded franchise".

If SI:SE is porn, then the women depicted in them (By the way, in past issues men have been included, and so have "serious" content.) must be porn stars. Are the photographers and others who work on that magazine pornographers? What is it about young women in the season's latest swimsuits that is the explicit depiction of sexual subject matter, especially with the sole intention of sexually exciting the viewer, otherwise known as porn?

What constitutes barely dressing? In Saudi Arabia, some tribal Pashtun regions of Afganistan and Pakistan, and other countries, you are barely dressed in your pic in the top-right corner of this page. Shouldn't healthy women with abdomenal strength be admired? Regularly in SI, advertisements for products (and in other men's magazines) are featured with men in atypical healthy physique. Why is that not sexual but the depiction of fit and toned women sexual? Why are you trying to make those young women feel strange about their bodies by describing them as having "boobs that defy reason"? Why the use of the word boobs? And why do they defy reason?

Seriously, I do know many women who do buy and peruse SI:SE for fashion ideas. I am a guy and even I think that some swimsuits are fashionable and some are just goofy. I haven't seen a swimsuit made of dental floss in any of the issues of SI:SE that I have seen. However, that would be interesting. Maybe a sort of pictorial depicting swimsuits made from found materials and recycled materials.

Why not be confident in yourself and comfortable with your body and don a bikini after popping out baby #2? If you are concerned about your physique, then you can exercise and eat right with the help of a trainer. There are plenty of models and actors who have had children and still have successful careers based on the admiration of their figures.

You are a "prude". Everyone says they are not a "prude", right before they prove that they are. This is because the social connotation of being a prude. The popular idea is that it is someone who cannot comprehend humor or has fun. Wikipedia is not the place one goes to find great definitions, but this suffices: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prudery If you look into the history of prudery and modesty, the sense of virtuous-ness, propriety and decorum came from a sense of shame also. Being a prude, was originally considered a compliment. Medieval texts of modesty describes standards of clothing that described a sense of shame that women AND men should have by not being properly covered. One example of that medieval text was that fat men should cover their legs because looking at their legs would be disgusting and repulsive to others, and that therefore tights would be insufficient many times for these fat men.

I thought you found a magazine in your office not NFL cheerleaders in thongs. What difference does it make what kind of underwear they wear anyways?

Seriously though, I am glad I live in a society where I can sit down in the UCLA bookstore and look through SI:SE. I appreciate that I admire the women in the magazine for their physique. I also appreciated it when a young woman sits down next to me and starts a conversation and a relationship with me because of the magazine. I am glad that we aren't labelled as perverts or sexual miscreants because we have a healthy sexual sense of self. I have since transferred to USC, and in the green lawn in front of Leavey Library, young women often don bikinis and sun bathe, read books, and just generally enjoy life. Should they be shunned as pornographic bimbos as you seem to imply? Who's really objectifying who? And what is objectionable about a healthy sense of attraction?

What a whiner!

Just give your copy away or toss it fergodssakes.

If the models weren't drop dead gorgeous you'd think it was what? - Some kind of sicko chubby porn?

I hope no one ever makes the mistake of complimenting your hair at work. You might have to have them arrested for being a perv!

Opt out of your copy with your HR Dept. I bet they'll allow that.

Or do what other idiots would do - sue "The Man" for forcing you to look at their smut. You can make yourself a cool million and become despised by the rest of society who unbelievably are actually able to operate a trash can lid.

looseparts: As a semi-regular National Geographic reader, there actually have been several "Topless Aboriginals" spreads in their history. Is it more acceptable for them to do it because the "average american" would not consider these women attractive? Is it because aboriginal peoples are somehow believed to be "less human" than a western woman?

I would like to reiterate -- I don't understand why a healthy, attractive human body is something people believe should be hidden. I am sorry if the swimsuit issue makes some people feel inadequate or disgusted by their own desires and urges.

I wish the magazine showed a wider range of body types and not such a narrow definition of what is attractive, but I don't think that remotely makes it pornographic.

Maybe Mike McM knows that REAL men prefer real women...not pictures of them.
Could it be he realizes that too much mono-sex (or is that mano-sex?) deteriorates a man's ability to get it up.
Maybe you should all back off and realize that REAL men don't need porn.
They actually like women and REAL sex.

Take the magazine...keep it face down and send it to the people who give you tons of time for one quote in an article. Seriously...noone is making you open the cover of the magazine and flip through the pages...be happy enough people want to buy this magazine to keep you gainfully employed. Lighten up ...Im sure someone you know whould be thrilled to have your free copy of the swimsuit edition. Do them a favor give them what they want, smile and say you are welcome after they thank you. Its a win win.

What I want to know, is why, after you were "forced" to look at this so-called "porn" you would post a photo from said issue right in the middle of your blog, where your readers can't avoid it. At least you had the option of NOT looking at the images in SI. You might want to think before you blog.

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